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Old 06-12-2016, 06:07 PM   #811
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I think with the ISIS threat (and even if it's removed/powerless there'll be something new), would a real good first step be enacting it where if you're on a FBI watch list, you can't buy a gun???


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it is not this simple, if one is on a watch list and then interviewed and no conclusive evidence is found they can not lose their rights, take away his right to have a gun, and he loses his job, there would be many defending him, calling it discrimination. I wish we had a Dept of Pre Crime like in the movie, Minority Report, we don't.
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Old 06-12-2016, 06:12 PM   #812
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pretending they do not exist or denying the tie to extreme Islamic beliefs is a complete failure of leadership. This is what Obama has done his whole term. Now the worst U S terrorist attack belongs to him. At his press conference to conflate this with the Batman movie terror? mass killing just proves he won't accept this at face value. These people died because they were at a gay night club at the hands of a Islamic extremist.


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Florida senator and ex-Presidental hopeful Marco Rubio said the attack was indicative of the way radical Islam views gay people and lesbians.

He told local media: "If you look at the nature of the attack, it doesn't take an enormous amount of coordination to do this.

"We have seen the way gays and lesbians are treated by radical Islam. So in some ways it's not surprising. I am confident the FBI and Homeland Security are on this."
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I wish we had a Dept of Pre Crime like in the movie, Minority Report, we don't.
No you fucking don't. Do you not realise the massive injustices this would cause? Didn't you actually watch the fucking movie?
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1. it was a movie
2. the statement was for everyone that has a false concept that in a perfect world the system was suppose to stop this from happening

their is no perfect world or 100% system that can prevent these things, there are things we can do that can affect the likelihood of us having more of these incidents or less. Sadly most actions taken lately will lead to the 'more' direction.
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their is no perfect world or 100% system that can prevent these things, there are things we can do that can affect the likelihood of us having more of these incidents or less. Sadly most actions taken lately will lead to the 'more' direction.
You are 100% right.

Limiting access to automatic weaponry seems like a good start.

Or does this theory only apply to things on your side of the talking points memo?
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Now the worst U S terrorist attack belongs to him.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks


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Marco Rubio, way more Presidential than Obama

He doesn't give a shit about LGBTQ people, he's consistently been against marriage equality, adoption equality, and civil rights. It's been sickening to see the right wing use this to attack Islam, while they themselves attack the LGBTQ community and use hateful rhetoric and deny them civil rights. Fuck them.


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Glad to hear you're safe, LN7. Scary shit.

I'm going to be in Orlando on business this week. I originally thought about donating blood when I got there but it seems that the response has been overwhelming for them.
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Marco cared about LGBT community at the Gay fraternity foam party he attended in college.


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Santa Monica police continued to search the suspect’s white Acura on Sunday morning. All four of the car’s doors were open and a green blanket, red gasoline canister and several other smaller items were being piled on the sidewalk next to it. The car’s license plate included a symbol of the National Rifle Assn. on the left side and the bottom said, "Teaching Freedom."
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:55 PM   #822
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it is not this simple, if one is on a watch list and then interviewed and no conclusive evidence is found they can not lose their rights, take away his right to have a gun, and he loses his job, there would be many defending him, calling it discrimination. I wish we had a Dept of Pre Crime like in the movie, Minority Report, we don't.
How come they're not allowed to fly on a plane then? If you're so supportive of their rights?
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I can never tell if deep is serious or doing his "devil's advocate" schtick anymore.

So I don't bother with his posts.

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i can't take credit for this, but, basically:

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In summary: A homophobic Islamic fundamentalist just killed 50 people thanks to the gun access homophobic Christian fundamentalists keep insisting we need to protect us from Islamic fundamentalists.
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Fucking brilliant.
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