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Old 06-12-2016, 08:59 AM   #751
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Some reports of possible "Islamic" motivations.

Also, in many cities, it's Gay Pride weekend.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:00 AM   #752
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Gunman in a Latin gay club. 20 dead. The gunman killed himself. Sounds like he was organized and prepared. They are calling it an act of terror. He had an assault rifle as well as a "suspicious device."

He didn't kill himself. Was shot dead by police after a gun battle.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:13 AM   #753
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I consider any mass shooting targeting a group of people to be an "act of terror", regardless of the identity of the shooter. This is so very sad.

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I consider any mass shooting targeting a group of people to be an "act of terror", regardless of the identity of the shooter.
Agreed. Maybe just viewing all mass shootings in that manner is what we need to do to get something moving, I dunno.

But seriously, it's just...I do not get how people can still keep sticking their heads in the sand on this issue, and refuse to budge even a LITTLE bit. Again I say, I'm honestly scared to find out what it COULD take to finally get people to wake the fuck up.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:43 AM   #755
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Unfortunately with how our news works over here, there will be 50 different versions of what happens. No wonder conspiracy theories are so easy to make up....

When you allow citizens the right to guns, this really isn't that unexpected. We have proven time and time again that our society is not fit to own them.

But nothing will ever change


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Old 06-12-2016, 09:54 AM   #756
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Wow, how much I never wanted to be so close to this topic.

I was two blocks down the road from the Plaza Theatre on Friday where that first murder happened. Didn't know anybody there. But, that was one of the most memorable concerts I can think of. Naked and Famous with Vacationer. The Plaza is an old movie theater converted into a concert hall. Autographs would be right in the lobby. The venue opens up a table and makes space for the artist as the fans flock over. I've had intentions to return before I leave Orlando finally in September. Because I love that little venue. And now my memory of it is replaced with a murder scene.

All in the meanwhile I woke up to some texts about what happened at Pulse last night. Right now I'm just with as many details as the next person, but it's pretty likely that I knew someone there. I've been to Pulse many times. That was another place that I have written down on a list, wishing to bid farewell to. Something I probably will not be doing. Very uneasy morning.
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Take it easy and stay safe, LN . And here's hoping if anyone you do know was there, that they made it out okay.
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50 dead. Fuck.

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50 dead, 53 hospitalized. Conflicting reports on whether or not killer is from Afghanistan or simply of Afghani descent.

I believe this would be the worst mass shooting in US history.
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I know that 50 number came from Buddy Dyer's mouth. I have no idea if that was clarified but I'm so hoping that's a misspoken number.

I'm just shaking right now.
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I'm still seeing 20 in most reports, not that that really makes it any less significant.
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Well, police chief is on the news now, and he's saying 50 for sure.
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Horrible stuff.
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All in the meanwhile I woke up to some texts about what happened at Pulse last night. Right now I'm just with as many details as the next person, but it's pretty likely that I knew someone there. I've been to Pulse many times. That was another place that I have written down on a list, wishing to bid farewell to. Something I probably will not be doing. Very uneasy morning.
As soon as I heard the location. I figured it would hit very close to home for you. I hope nobody you knew is among the victims. My sympathies for the whole community.
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Well, police chief is on the news now, and he's saying 50 for sure.
Awful
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