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Old 12-02-2015, 11:48 PM   #541
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Also, I'm torturing myself by flipping between coverage of this on Fox and MSNBC. Anyone who thinks these channels are the same is an idiot.
Was watching local coverage earlier flipping between stations and the local Boston Fox affiliate was simulcasting the Fox News coverage during Greta Von Susteren's show...the woman is a blithering idiot.
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Yes because everybody will see it here vs the major news link I found it on. While you're at it please delete CNN and divorce yourself from reality.
You're the only source I've seen it from thus far. Msnbc won't say his name.
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You must have a different network system
they are here in the O C and online
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/san-berna...ornia-shooting
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Wonder if he got his gun over Black Friday??

Just read an article earlier that said enough guns were purchased to arm the marine corps. Over 185k officially.

Now, that only shows one sale. Multiple guns bought on the transaction would not show up.

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And we still fail to address the real problem.



When you consider how many millions of guns exist in the US, and the relatively minute number that are used in crimes, to blame the gun is empty rhetoric. Otherwise, we would see mass shoot-outs all over the country every day.


Re-reading this thread, this quote gave me pause.

This is pretty much where we are, isn't it? There have been more mass shootings than there are days in 2015.
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Seeing A LOT of uninformed irrational stuff posted online from conspiracy theorists saying this was a staged false flag event created by our government to further take our rights away. While I believe we should always question things but these people are worse than uber conservatives.


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Re-reading this thread, this quote gave me pause.

This is pretty much where we are, isn't it? There have been more mass shootings than there are days in 2015.

Statistics support your claim...
Number of Deaths in 2015 | Gun Violence Archive

if you digest this list chances are high that your day won't be a happy one anymore
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So now the police news conference says two shooters
Farooq 28 his wife Tashfeen Malik 27, both dead. I think they thought they would get away with it.
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Seeing A LOT of uninformed irrational stuff posted online from conspiracy theorists saying this was a staged false flag event created by our government to further take our rights away. While I believe we should always question things but these people are worse than uber conservatives.
Where the fuck do these people even come from.
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I have no idea. Is it any more unrealistic that the attacks could have been a premeditated terrorist attack than to think it was an attack perpetrated by our own government to take away gun rights so that America becomes a controlled police state? One of those scenarios seems more probable given the evidence provided.


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If I was the government, I'd totally run false-flag operations, since nobody would believe it. However, I suspect it would unravel just as quickly, if not more so, than Watergate or the NSA spying scandal. Also, unnecessarily complex. You don't need to disarm citizens to make America, or any other country, a police state. It's already well along that road imo.
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Seeing A LOT of uninformed irrational stuff posted online from conspiracy theorists saying this was a staged false flag event created by our government to further take our rights away. While I believe we should always question things but these people are worse than uber conservatives.
...uh-huh.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist sort in general, so I often tend to shrug off a lot of that sort of babble as it is. I'm sorry, I just don't think our government, as a whole, is really capable of pulling off a big scale conspiracy like that. Mainly because I think there's far too many stupid people in our government a lot of the time to actually successfully pull off such big events . And like Kieran said, in this day and age, this sort of stuff wouldn't stay a secret for long no matter how competent or not the people involved were.

That, and contrary to what a lot of uber-conservatives wish to think, Obama's not a diabolical mastermind, so...yeah. His anger every time he comes out to comment on these sorts of events is far too genuine.
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Seeing A LOT of uninformed irrational stuff posted online from conspiracy theorists saying this was a staged false flag event created by our government to further take our rights away. While I believe we should always question things but these people are worse than uber conservatives.


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There is a False Flag YouTube video for every major attack. 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombers, London Attack

Sometimes people need an overarching justification for random events. JFK is one of my favorite movies and it captures the paranoia of the times perfectly. despite Stone taking factual liberties. That film gave birth to the X-Files and with the Internet the conspiracy cottage industry was off and running. Now the level of mistrust in our Government is so high, a good chunk of people are ready to blow up the system and put Trump in.

BTW If you are into a good conspiracy to ponder check out "Hunting Hitler" on History. Truly fascinating if you can imagine he faked his suicide and escaped capture.


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Guns can never be taken away in America. We already have a pretty big black market for people to get guns by bypassing the proper channels. Hell, the proper channels don't even work anyway.


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Yes because everybody will see it here vs the major news link I found it on. While you're at it please delete CNN and divorce yourself from reality.
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