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Old 12-02-2015, 08:40 PM   #496
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Wow. Not often women get involved in these sorts of shootings.

Very strange all around.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:52 PM   #497
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There was another mass shooting today too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...united-states/
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CNN reporting that the argument that occurred at the holiday party is linked, meaning this person left and returned with 2 people.

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I don't know why I'm actually watching the news on this. Just more guessing. My local news (they've been on the air live with this since at least 4:00) just stated there's a possibility of it being gang related.

But I don't think the press conference that just ended alluded to that ... fuck, I'm not going to assume anything at this point.

Merry fucking Christmas.
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I just do not get how people can look at these sorts of stories and STILL insist, with a straight face, that we need more guns, and continue to cling to their misinterpretation of the Second Amendment and claim that they have the right to own whatever sorts of guns they want without any regulation.

People are dying. We need to get our damn priorities in order.
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I'm hearing that the argument at the holiday party thing too..
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It's definitely starting to sound like this has a disgruntled-former-employee slant.

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I just do not get how people can look at these sorts of stories and STILL insist, with a straight face, that we need more guns, and continue to cling to their misinterpretation of the Second Amendment and claim that they have the right to own whatever sorts of guns they want without any regulation.

People are dying. We need to get our damn priorities in order.
Surely the best proof against the "we need more guns!" argument is that these mass shootings are occurring with alarming regularity in a country with lax gun laws, not in the countries with strict gun control.

"Good people with guns" don't save people from mass shooters. Making it really fucking hard for anybody to get guns saves people from mass shooters.
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Would you feel safer working in an environment that allows people to conceal carry? I wouldn't. I read the usual comments such as "if someone had a gun the shooters would not have gotten away" etc. But the problem is a place like Inland Regional Center is a state funded agency. State funded agencies I'm pretty sure don't allow for conceal carry or any weapons on their employees for that matter. Plus it's a social service agency. It's just crazy.
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The only alarming thing I saw was an interview with a security guard that works for the security company that IRC contracts to provide security.. and he stated they do not carry guns and they never received active shooter training. So yeah.
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Would you feel safer working in an environment that allows people to conceal carry? I wouldn't. I read the usual comments such as "if someone had a gun the shooters would not have gotten away" etc. But the problem is a place like Inland Regional Center is a state funded agency. State funded agencies I'm pretty sure don't allow for conceal carry or any weapons on their employees for that matter. Plus it's a social service agency. It's just crazy.
And people just ignore when these things still happen despite people being on the scene with concealed carry weapons, anyways.
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I don't buy the argument angle.

You're telling me this guy got into an argument at the party, left, and just happened to have some friends hanging out with assault rifles and pre-made pipe bombs ready to roll? Doesn't sound very plausible
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Honestly armed citizens probably would not be a good match for 3 armed suspects wearing protective armor and armed with assault rifles.
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Honestly armed citizens probably would not be a good match for 3 armed suspects wearing protective armor and armed with assault rifles.
That's why we need to arm everyone with assault rifles
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Honestly armed citizens probably would not be a good match for 3 armed suspects wearing protective armor and armed with assault rifles.
It's long since been established that in a chaotic situation such as this, people can have difficulty identifying culprits. A "good person with a gun" is by no means likely to take out the right person (or even if they have correctly identified the right person, to be able to disable them under such pressure), and once you have two sides firing, how is it even clear to other people - including other "good people with guns" - which side is the "good" one? It's an idiotic argument. We have people trained and employed to handle unusual, high pressure situations like this for a reason.
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That's why we need to arm everyone with assault rifles
I was thinking intercontinental ballistic missiles myself. Let good old mutual assured destruction keep the peace.
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