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Old 10-11-2015, 09:25 PM   #406
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I work at a grocery store. Our security guy is armed and since open carry is legal here, everyone knows he is.


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WE have security guards at the stores here in town, but I don't know if they're armed. If they are, they're apparently very secretive about it.

I'm also VERY wary of the idea of security guards at schools. martha makes a good point about funding them and all that sort of thing, but even beyond that, just...no. I'm already wary enough about metal detectors in schools, because it makes them seem WAY too much like prisons. Adding guards to that mix-that's not what school should be, and I'd worry about kids finding ways to get the guns, too. I don't feel comfortable with ANYONE, I don't care who it is, carrying guns on school campuses to begin with.

What we need to do is make it so kids aren't walking off to school with guns from their homes in the first place. If parents are careless with where they leave their guns, or if their kid takes their gun and commits a crime with it, the parents need to be held responsible for that.

As for the Ted Nugent link from a couple pages back, I'm not even going to click on it. No need to kick of the day by making my blood pressure rise. But judging from the title of the link, safe to say that guy can be added to the "massive dumbass" pile.
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Putting armed guards everywhere would be placing a bandage on a festering wound. It feeds into the fears of our gun culture and does nothing to solve our underlying problem.
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WE have security guards at the stores here in town, but I don't know if they're armed. If they are, they're apparently very secretive about it.

I'm also VERY wary of the idea of security guards at schools. martha makes a good point about funding them and all that sort of thing, but even beyond that, just...no. I'm already wary enough about metal detectors in schools, because it makes them seem WAY too much like prisons. Adding guards to that mix-that's not what school should be, and I'd worry about kids finding ways to get the guns, too. I don't feel comfortable with ANYONE, I don't care who it is, carrying guns on school campuses to begin with.

What we need to do is make it so kids aren't walking off to school with guns from their homes in the first place. If parents are careless with where they leave their guns, or if their kid takes their gun and commits a crime with it, the parents need to be held responsible for that.

As for the Ted Nugent link from a couple pages back, I'm not even going to click on it. No need to kick of the day by making my blood pressure rise. But judging from the title of the link, safe to say that guy can be added to the "massive dumbass" pile.
Apropos of nothing much, but (and bear in mind I live on the other side of the world), an early episode of the recent, and garbage, tv series 'Fear The Walking Dead' featured some characters showing up for school, and I wasn't sure if I was looking at some sort of juvenile detention facility or a school.
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I've never seen a guard at a supermarket here, and guards at other places (Casinos for instance) are not armed as it's not allowed by law here.. yet I never feel unsafe when going to these places.
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Putting armed guards everywhere would be placing a bandage on a festering wound. It feeds into the fears of our gun culture and does nothing to solve our underlying problem.

But we do nothing to solve the underlying issue. Nothing.

My point is why not take some steps to reduce the chances. Even if it seems stupid or giving in.

We do nothing now.


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Just speaking for myself, I don't want to live in an environment of fearmongering. I'd rather move to a country that isn't damaged goods. It's not a solution for me.

Gun nuts would touch themselves thinking of the idea, I'm sure.
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Just speaking for myself, I don't want to live in an environment of fearmongering. I'd rather move to a country that isn't damaged goods. It's not a solution for me.

Gun nuts would touch themselves thinking of the idea, I'm sure.
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Well, in the gun-toting lunatic regard, anyhow.
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Apropos of nothing much, but (and bear in mind I live on the other side of the world), an early episode of the recent, and garbage, tv series 'Fear The Walking Dead' featured some characters showing up for school, and I wasn't sure if I was looking at some sort of juvenile detention facility or a school.
I haven't seen that series, but that sums up my point fairly well.

LemonMelon's sentiments are mine. I feel very, very uneasy about the idea of walking around town knowing so many "good guys" are armed. It would make me more nervous, not less. Too much risk for abuse of power and trigger-happy people getting hired for those kinds of jobs and just...no. It's creepy.
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I find this talk of armed guards at schools, supermarkets, etc. to be simply extraordinary and almost incomprehensible.

I come from a country where not even the regular cops carry guns. When I first moved from New Zealand to Australia, I found it confronting that Australian cops carry guns. Even as a kid - as a ten year old boy who thought guns were cool and liked action novels - it stuck out to me. Why would they even need guns if the place were safe?
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Totally agree. I would be super depressed if that happened here.

Says something about the ingrained negative issues in the US when arming these people is a preferable solution to actually doing something.


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I find this talk of armed guards at schools, supermarkets, etc. to be simply extraordinary and almost incomprehensible.
Brings up images of the wild west, doesn't it?

I mean, would you really feel safer checking out at a grocery store with the armed guard and some lunatic in a shoot out?
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I mean, would you really feel safer checking out at a grocery store with the armed guard and some lunatic in a shoot out?
Only in the express lane. And that's assuming the MFer in front of me isn't trying to sneak 13 items onto the belt.
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Only in the express lane. And that's assuming the MFer in front of me isn't trying to sneak 13 items onto the belt.


this is non guns related but if I ran a grocery store I would program the registers at the express to start adding an additional fee for every item over 10
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