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Old 10-08-2015, 12:14 AM   #361
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:58 AM   #362
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So another day, another shooting at a US school or university.

Can I just say the people who plead "if crazy people can't get guns they'll find another weapon" are complete fucking morons? Even if crazy people in Australia have found other weapons since 1996, they sure as shit haven't done a fraction as much damage as those with guns do.
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Can I just say the people who plead "if crazy people can't get guns they'll find another weapon" are complete fucking morons?
It's also a strangely negative/pessimistic point of view to take for a nation that prides itself for its scrappy, we can do anything we want to and can all achieve the American dream line of thought.
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Hey, it had been almost 8 days since the last school shooting. That's a bit better than the 6 we were averaging. Everything's fine.
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So another day, another shooting at a US school or university.

Can I just say the people who plead "if crazy people can't get guns they'll find another weapon" are complete fucking morons? Even if crazy people in Australia have found other weapons since 1996, they sure as shit haven't done a fraction as much damage as those with guns do.
Along similar lines, this whole "if we outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns" criminals-will-still-break-the-law argument is essentially an argument against laws of any sort.

-If we outlaw theft, thieves will still thieve!
-If we outlaw murder, murderers will still murder!
-If we outlaw child abuse, child abusers will still abuse children!

It's idiotic.

Besides the fact that no one is suggesting outlawing all guns! But any attempt at gun control legislation is treated as "they're coming for our guns!"

The Roseburg sheriff, with a straight face, argued before his state legislature earlier this year that background checks are a terrible idea that would do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns because they'd just break the law and find them another way. So basically, unless it is 100% effective we shouldn't even try, even if the proposed laws would make it more difficult for criminals to get guns?
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We just had a clip in a satiric news show from a dude, who apparently claims that if the Jews in WW2 had guns, the Holocaust would not have happened. Does anyone know the guy's name? That really had me flabbergasted... wtf.
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We just had a clip in a satiric news show from a dude, who apparently claims that if the Jews in WW2 had guns, the Holocaust would not have happened. Does anyone know the guy's name? That really had me flabbergasted... wtf.

Well Ben Carson just made that argument recently....


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So another day, another shooting at a US school or university.
Make that TWO shootings at a U.S. university in ONE day.

But who's counting?
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Well Ben Carson just made that argument recently....


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Is he a person of any significant importance over there?
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Is he a person of any significant importance over there?

He's a Republican running for president, a pediatric neurosurgeon by trade, who's been polling #2 in the Republican field behind Donald Trump due to his 'outsider' status.


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Oy... he's running for President? Cripes, didn't expect that! Oh man...
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Oy... he's running for President? Cripes, didn't expect that! Oh man...
he's not just running...he's doing well.
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Another school shooting at Texas Southern. One dead, one injured. Second one today. USA, USA!!
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I wish there was a easier way to stop this.
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Obama is in Seattle this afternoon after a stop in Roseburg. There are, apparently, some people in Roseburg who don't want him there, because a visit to the scene of the horror will of course mean he's "pushing his anti-gun agenda."

I may have actually yelled "OH FUCK YOU" at the radio when I heard that this morning.

I'm not proud of it. But I'm not sorry, either.
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