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Old 01-31-2008, 06:46 PM   #106
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A year from now it'll all be over for the Bush's, sweep them all under the rug. G-d forbid any more of them show up in the Oval Office in the future.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:45 AM   #108
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I have only 4 words for the day Bush leaves office:

G-d help us all.......
You know, there are many people out there who support the neo-conservative agenda yet still admit that Bush is not that great of a leader. You are just on another level of insanity.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:50 AM   #109
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I'm sure Al Quaida is counting too and just waiting for the day the new administration is sworn in and the war on terror officially comes to a halt.
I actually agree with you on this one. If we elect someone who is against policing the world, and the terrorist finally leaves office, the war on him (and other terrorists in his administration) will eventually come to an end, given that U.S. policy changes.

Good point.
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I actually agree with you on this one. If we elect someone who is against policing the world, and the terrorist finally leaves office, the war on him (and other terrorists in his administration) will eventually come to an end, given that U.S. policy changes.

Good point.
Yes, Islamic Terrorism began with GWB and it has nothing at all to do with expansionist religious belief or political opportunism by such fundamentalists, if left alone they will just keep to themselves and peacefully coexist with secular progressive elements in the world.

What did America do to provoke the Barbary Pirates?
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A year! Why so LOOOOOOONG!!

No wonder you guys don't vote....you bloody forget to
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Yes, Islamic Terrorism began with GWB and it has nothing at all to do with expansionist religious belief or political opportunism by such fundamentalists, if left alone they will just keep to themselves and peacefully coexist with secular progressive elements in the world.

What did America do to provoke the Barbary Pirates?
Oh he was talking about Islamic Terrorism? He had said the War on Terror so I was referring to the terrorist activities of the Bush Administration over the last 5 years.
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Yes, and your response implied that it is US foreign policy that is the sole driving force behind it, that if America was more isolationist then Islamic terrorism would cease because it is supposedly retaliatory.

But then countries like Spain do remove forces from crusader wars and bomb plots continue to be pursued. Countries get threatened over freedoms wholly independent of GWB or the USA (MoToons). At what point does violence cease to be the fault of the victim, sure Americans may deserve everything they get but a lowly Dutch filmmaker? A consular official from a cartoon exporting nation? The palaeocon isolationist streak is an arguable case, but I don't think it is a panacea for a religious belief that the world is divided into a House of Islam and the rest a House of War.

And again what would you have done against the Barbary Pirates? The question seems fitting as it matches a time when America was much more like Ron Pauls platform.
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I am already really enjoying this period of utter irrelevance for Bush. I love how anytime I turn on the news, his smug, smirking face is no longer there. I love how nobody talks about him anymore. I love how there is a sense of hope that maybe, just maybe the ills he's done may be undone sooner than 3 generations from now. I love the change in discourse, the change in tone, and the change in feeling towards the US abroad that is palpable. It is like when you emerge from a long illness, and every day you get stronger, little by little.

What a feeling.
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Just wait until McCain and Clinton are the nominees
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Just wait until McCain and Clinton are the nominees
Yeah. I don't know about you, but I've noticed here that a lot of more positive attitudes towards the US are dependent on there being a President Obama at the end of January 2009.
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That was the joke, even though the policy differences may be meaningless.
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That was the joke, even though the policy differences may be meaningless.
I don't think many people at all see the policy differences (or lack thereof). They just see the possibility of a Clinton dynasty and recoil.

Though it'll be even worse if McCain is not the Republican candidate. Romney or Huckabee would sure earn some ill will. The US's international standing was lucky Obama won Iowa, because if it had been Clinton, a lot more would've been made about Huckabee taking it for the Republicans. Though I'm sure Family First were out popping non-alcoholic champagne.
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Huckabee won't be the nom. He'll probably win a few more states in the South and Midwest, but that's it.
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