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Old 10-16-2007, 10:52 PM   #346
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So now Matt's a bad guy?


i'm just irritated that people can't report on something gay-related and not have to loudly announce that they're straight because, GOD FORBID!, somone might get the wrong idea.

it just furthers notions of gay shame. sure, Matt has no problems with gay people or whatever, but he'd never actually want you to think he was gay, let alone actually be gay.

i mean, ew!
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I didn't see it, and I doubt I could bear to watch it all the way through even if I had a TV, but there is a complete transcript over at msnbc.com for anyone who's curious and missed it.

Based on the transcript, I doubt this will have changed many people's minds one way or the other.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:24 AM   #348
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I didn't see it, and I doubt I could bear to watch it all the way through even if I had a TV, but there is a complete transcript over at msnbc.com for anyone who's curious and missed it.

Based on the transcript, I doubt this will have changed many people's minds one way or the other.
After watching Senator Wide Stance's body language, he looked like he was hiding something and his wife was in denial-very sad.

Also the more I watch and learn about the Senator the more he comes across as a narcissist-everything is about him.

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and his wife was in denial-very sad.

Be proud that you contributed to that environment...
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After watching Senator Wide Stance's body language, he looked like he was hiding something and his wife was in denial-very sad.
Ever wonder why?
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I thought the whole thing was sad and uncomfortable-what was the point? Nothing new was learned.

Maybe Matt Lauer is one of those straight guys that gets all uncomfortable talking about gay issues. I don't think he's a great interviewer anyway. Did anyone see Meredith Vieira on the Today Show yesterday morning interviewing Jake Gyllenhaal-she brought up Brokeback Mountain and said something to the effect of "did you know what you were sitting on" being in that movie, then said "I probably shouldn't use that term, I apologize". I thought it was weird and inappropriate Just like practically every other interview with the stars of that movie that turned into some sort of "jokes" like that. Maybe it's telling.
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I thought the whole thing was sad and uncomfortable-what was the point? Nothing new was learned.
Sensationalism?

I only saw a few minutes of the interview, but yeah, what I did see was horribly uncomfortable. Ok, Matt, we get it - you're as hetero as they come.
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I'm so glad I don't watch TV.
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NBC's Matt Lauer, Making the Least Of an Opportunity

By Tom Shales Washington Post
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; C01

One thing, at least, was made painfully clear by Matt Lauer's interview with Sen. Larry Craig on NBC last night: Matt Lauer is no Mike Wallace. Lauer was anything but hard-hitting or confrontational with the Idaho Republican, arrested in June for alleged homosexual solicitation in a Minneapolis airport men's room.

For Lauer, self-important co-host of NBC's "Today" show, the interview was obviously seen as a potential career- and credibility-builder, but even when he did ask an arguably tough question, he essentially apologized for it. He prefaced a question about whether the senator might be bisexual by saying to Craig, "You're going to have to forgive me for this."

What? This is a journalist practicing journalism? Lauer's like a virgin veteran, an old hand who seems inexperienced. Diane Sawyer, to name one example, would have done a much better interview. Anyone on "60 Minutes," Wallace or another member of the vaunted team, would have done a better one. Lauer's former "Today" co-host, the much-maligned Katie Couric, also would likely have done a more effective job.

Craig -- seated on a couch in what looked like the family den next to his wife, Suzanne -- pleaded guilty to nothing during the interview except having pleaded guilty (to "disrupting the peace") in the first place. "It was a very, very big mistake," he said of his hasty decision to enter the plea to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct. He should have called his lawyer immediately, he said: "I sought no counsel. I made a very big mistake."

Lauer wore his concerned, caring face throughout the interview, but he appeared to be an actor in a role, with every facial expression, gesture and use of props (a pair of glasses, a pen) calculated for effect. Craig was less than convincing in his denials, even if the airport incident did sound, as it has from the beginning, like a case of entrapment.

When in an airport bathroom, apparently, or when in any public convenience, the rule is that a man can bump feet with the person in the next stall but must never tap his foot at any time, lest he send out a signal that he wants to have sex then and there. Craig said he may have bumped the foot of the cop in the next stall when Craig sat down, but he denied ever tapping his foot. Bumping yes, tapping no; perhaps airport men's rooms should have signs posted that warn of these peculiar rules.

And never, ever reach under the wall to the next stall, which Craig said he did when trying to remove a piece of stray tissue from the bottom of his shoe. The arresting airport cop insisted that Craig reached under the divider with his left hand and his palm upward, yet another alleged gesture that constitutes a gay-sex overture.

It might be funny -- and late-night comics had a field day, as clips showed -- if it weren't, on various levels, so terribly sad.

But Lauer shied away from one of the more troubling aspects of the case. Craig, it was reported, had long been the subject of speculation as to his sexual proclivities, while in his role as a senator, he consistently opposed gay rights, including the granting of marital status to gay partners who live together. Lauer never brought up the issue of hypocrisy: the unseemly possibility that Craig essentially condemned homosexuality while partaking of gay sex himself.

Craig himself brought up his voting record and said of homosexuality, "I don't approve of the lifestyle." Lauer should have followed up; why did he call it a "lifestyle" and what about it does he disapprove of? At one point, reading from Craig's history, Lauer said the records included "a guy who claims you 'cruised' him -- whatever that is." This, it seemed, was Lauer's way of winking into the camera and saying, "I'm not gay."

You hardly have to be gay in 21st-century America to know what the phrase "cruising" means. It was even the title of a movie starring Al Pacino. Lauer needs to worry less about his own image and more about getting valuable information when conducting an interview. It seemed highly likely that Craig and his wife agreed to sit down with Lauer because they knew they had nothing, really, to fear.

Craig said he has been the victim of "gladiator politics," thrown into the arena like a Christian tossed to waiting lions, and he expressed disappointment in Republican colleagues, especially presidential candidate Mitt Romney, for abandoning and criticizing him when the story first broke. There was a touch of the crybaby to Craig's protestations, as there was to Lauer's remarks on Tuesday's "Today" show about the interview having been a difficult one for him to do.

Ah yes, this was another chapter in the Matt Lauer Story more than it was an interview at all. But those who loved it and didn't get enough in an hour-long prime-time special were advised they could see still more of the interview on NBC's Web site and on this morning's "Today" show. The interview was plugged for two nights in a row by Brian Williams on his otherwise exemplary "NBC Nightly News."

The interview should have produced some water-cooler talk, some revelation that everyone would be discussing today. But the best excuse for water-cooler talk in the interview was what a mediocre job Lauer had done conducting it.
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^ wow, well done, that pretty much gets it right.
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Matt Lauer's always been a softball interviewer.

Did anyone catch the special with the princes over the summer? Total yawnfest.

I'm not the biggest Katie Couric fan, but she would have taken this and knocked it out of the park.
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I find it odd how posters have now shifted the issue from a law maker who is a law breaker in denial on various levels -to dumping on a straight reporter who was sensitive to the situation he was in.

Did you want Matt to become Larry's therapist on the spot?

Some cease to amaze me here.

Emapthy for the liar, spit on the messenger who exposed Larry for what he was -a self elevatedd liar with a co-dependent wife.

Matt did a great job with the situation he was presented with.

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I find it odd how posters have now shifted the issue from a law maker who is a law breaker in denial on various levels -to dumping on a straight reporter who was sensitive to the situation he was in.

Did you want Matt to become Larry's therapist on the spot?

Some cease to amaze me here.

Emapthy for the liar, spit on the messenger who exposed Larry for what he was -a self elevatedd liar with a co-dependent wife.

Matt did a great job with the situation he was presented with.

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maybe if you had a measure of compassion for people who have to deal with the fallout from the hateful attitudes you express towards homosexuals, you'd understand.

my goodness, how awful to take a look at someone's trainwreck of a life, and actually understand that it's a nuanced, complex thing, and that no one is ever all good or all bad. you've got to great, great lengths to excuse David Vitter, but is that only because he puts his penis in a vagina?

also, Craig probably didn't violate a single law, and if this ever went to court, it'd be thrown out. he was stupid, stupid, stupid for pleading guilty, and the officer is probably guilty of entrapment. but at the very least it exposed the hypocrisy that's the beating heart of the GOP as well as given us a window into the extraordinarily complex and painful lives of men who've been pushed into the closet and act out in extremely unhealthy ways due to the homophobia in society perpetuated by individuals such as yourself and social clubs like the Mormon church.
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maybe if you had a measure of compassion for people who have to deal with the fallout from the hateful attitudes you express towards homosexuals, you'd understand.

I think it's safe to assume that if Diamond hasn't experienced it, he doesn't understand it, and doesn't really care to.

Conservatives in general seem to view compassion and empathy as weaknesses, I know there was a lot of fear when W used that word as part of his campaign. Rest assure they didn't have to worry too much it was just a word he threw around he never acted on it.
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Well it's oh so easy to dump on Larry Craig then it is to face the context of his situation and face that there are nuances and complexities in everyone's life (unless you're perfect and above reproach, or living some sort of revisionist history life of moral superiority). Does that context make him blameless? No. But most people can see and acknowledge that context.

I find it ironic that someone who comments on Hillary Clinton's cellulite criticizes anyone for commenting on how Matt Lauer or anyone else conducts such an interview. Which is more irrelevant and/or nonsensical?
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