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Old 12-01-2005, 09:40 AM   #46
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though you will find very, very few examples in history of one country (the US) slowly working it's way, house-to-house, in another country (France) to rid that country of occupiers (Germany).
ONE country? The point I am making is that numerous other nations also contributed to the D-Day landings.
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And it may be fair to say that in this alternate timeline the USA would still become embroiled in the Pacific, would probably win over the course of a few years leaving a very unstable set of the USA, Greater Germany and USSR. Science and technology would probably evolve, the atomic bomb would be a desired technology and things could have become very messy.

History is the way it is because if it wasn't then things today wouldn't be the way they are.

As far as the liberation of France from Germany people look at it all with rose coloured glasses, glossing over the massive civilian casualties, animosity towards the allies from certain quarters and later on in Belgium military failures that make Iraq look like the best of all possible situations. We also forget the SS-Werewolves in post-war Germany.
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And it may be fair to say that in this alternate timeline the USA would still become embroiled in the Pacific, would probably win over the course of a few years leaving a very unstable set of the USA, Greater Germany and USSR. Science and technology would probably evolve, the atomic bomb would be a desired technology and things could have become very messy.
And under a weaker leader than Churchill Britain may have come to some kind of uneasy peace arrangement with Hitler and it may have taken decades to find out the truth about the Holocaust, i.e., it might have been covered up.

But as you said this is all hypothetical musings.
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We also forget the SS-Werewolves in post-war Germany.
Have you read The Odessa File, it is a very good thriller dealing with this.
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ONE country? The point I am making is that numerous other nations also contributed to the D-Day landings.

yes, absolutely. sorry -- though the vast majority of troops involved in Operation Overlord were American, British, and Canadian, and the vast majority of those American. and the bloodiest landing was at Omaha Beach, where the US took over 2,500 casualties in just a few hours.

but you're right -- it is a simplification to say "one country."
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And under a weaker leader than Churchill Britain may have come to some kind of uneasy peace arrangement with Hitler and it may have taken decades to find out the truth about the Holocaust, i.e., it might have been covered up.


and this is why, if you asked members of the US congress who is their political hero, i would imagine the most common answer would be Churchill. he's worshipped in this country precisely for this reason.
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that's a lovely cutting-and-pasting job, hiphop!

quoting someone with an agenda does nothing to settle the discussion, or even to have a discussion. you've, again, demonstrated how intellectually lazy you are when it comes to this subject. taking a single man's opinion and presenting it as not just fact but as all-encompassing, incontravertable truth isn't even university-level thought.

wooo thanks for the flowers.

Indeed, I do not intend to publish my academic contributions on FYM. I prefer a certain Academy of Science for those
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wooo thanks for the flowers.

Indeed, I do not intend to publish my academic contributions on FYM. I prefer a certain Academy of Science for those




good luck with that!
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Hey isn't that last guy a Vietnam veteran or something? Classy!
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Hey isn't that last guy a Vietnam veteran or something? Classy!
No you don't get it.

Vietnam veterans are only heros if they agree with Buschco.

If they dissent in any way from the party line of the Volkshomeland they are in fact TRAITORS.

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!!!!
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