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Old 12-02-2004, 01:30 PM   #1
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old news - the truth will out..

Even Ken Starr has to finally admit the impeachment was illegitimate.

Hmm. Right- wing conspiracy


Who cares? well, a presidency was crippled.


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Kenneth Starr says he shouldn't have been involved in Lewinsky case

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Published 10:50 am PST Thursday, December 2, 2004

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) - Kenneth Starr says he never should have led the investigation that resulted in the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton.

The former independent counsel, now dean of the Pepperdine University law school, says "the most fundamental thing that could have been done differently" was for somebody else to have investigated Clinton's statements under oath denying he had an affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

Starr said his role in a yearslong investigation of Clinton should have focused instead on Clinton's role in the failed Arkansas land deal known as Whitewater.

"There was a sense on the part of the country that my (Lewinsky) effort was an effort somehow to expand the (Whitewater) investigation, when it was separate," he told the Santa Barbara News-Press following a speech on Wednesday.

Clinton has accused Starr of running a partisan, Republican effort to ruin his presidency. Starr, however, defended the integrity of the investigation.

"It reinforced the proposition that all of us are subject to the law, no matter how high our station," he said. "The facts are the facts."

At his 1999 impeachment trial, Clinton was acquitted by the Senate of perjury and obstruction of justice. The Whitewater case ended with the conviction of Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and two of Clinton's former business partners for fraud and conspiracy. Clinton was never charged.
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Re: old news - the truth will out..

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Even Ken Starr has to finally admit the impeachment was illegitimate.

i'm not sure how you got that statement out of the article.
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in the end, we were all worse off for that whole debacle.

i don't care who started it. it cheapened us all.
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Right-wing conspiracy? A bit dramatic, to say the least.

All he said is:

1.) Someone else should have led it.

2.) The focus should have been on Whitewater.

3.) And pertaining to your claim of "illegitimate," most importantly, "Starr, however, defended the integrity of the investigation."

To quote Mr. Starr, "The facts are the facts."
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Re: Re: old news - the truth will out..

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i'm not sure how you got that statement out of the article.
Actually, the article contridicts the statement....


deep up to his old tricks again
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He announced the Whitewater case closing and wanted to accept the position he now holds.

The people who were also financing Paula Jones insisted he continue and pressured him to do so. I say conspiracy.

He veered out of the authority of his special prosecutor mandate.

Most likely the Paula Jones case, which was found to have "no merit" would not have led to the so-called perjury.


Republicans should be embarassed over the impeachment.
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Um, any chance you can link an article that says of any of these things?

If so, your original statement makes more sense.
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Democrats should be embarrassed by Clinton!
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Wow...you all beat me to it....
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Wow...you all beat me to it....
There seems to be a strange insurgence of conservatives on this board.
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I supported Clinton's policies, on the whole, but deplored his moral shortcomings. How's that?
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yes, 8 years of general peace, world respect, and unprecedented prosperity are entirely negated by a blow job.

how embarassing.

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Clinton was lucky to be in office when the world was still in a general detente after the collapse of the Soviet Union. I don't think the peace and world respect had much to do with his policies. And the prosperity was due fueled by the dotcom surge and the bearing of business expansion fruit sown under the Reagan years. Again, Clinton wasn't responsible for that. He just reacted to the goodwill.
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I supported Clinton's policies, on the whole, but deplored his moral shortcomings
Same here. Plus I admire his intellect and charisma. It wasn't just about the sex w/ Monica for me, it was the lying (to his family and the country) and the unfaithfulness to his wife.

I'd still rather have him as President right now, even in spite of all of that.
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Clinton was lucky to be in office when the world was still in a general detente after the collapse of the Soviet Union. I don't think the peace and world respect had much to do with his policies. And the prosperity was due fueled by the dotcom surge and the bearing of business expansion fruit sown under the Reagan years. Again, Clinton wasn't responsible for that. He just reacted to the goodwill.

oh please.
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