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Old 08-21-2005, 08:27 AM   #1
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Old hatreds in old Europe - White Nationalism and anti-Semitism

Looks like the 'White Nationalist' movement has found its way to Ireland, check out this link:-


http://www.geocities.com/irishnationalist1921/

Fruitcakes, and a disgrace to Irish nationalism with their absurd
distortion of history.
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:35 AM   #2
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Because we support a United Ireland we will be called communists or the more usual "reds" by those loyal to the british Occupation of Ireland who know nothing about Irish history.
Because we are pro White, pro Fascist and Right wing, the communists will call us loyalists.
We don't care what either say! We are Irish and Proud to be, no guilt just pride.


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Old 08-21-2005, 08:39 AM   #3
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You're right laughter is the best response to fruitcakery.
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You're right laughter is the best response to fruitcakery.
fruitcakes indeed.
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Yes very disturbing as you say, but also, fruitcakes, as you say.
Heck, anybody can put up a web site..i wouldnt panic...there are even pro-white fascist groups (gangs,) here in little old Adelaide, but they will never flourish........how pathetic and insecure must you be to have to resort to calling yourself pro-white, i mean..please...........
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Ah, a geocities site I see. Very professional.
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It won't be very funny if these fruitcakes try any stunts in Ireland. As in, the violent kind. Because Ian Paisley and his son and his ilk will blame it on Sinn Fein....and there goes any hope of political progress in NI.
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It won't be very funny if these fruitcakes try any stunts in Ireland. As in, the violent kind. Because Ian Paisley and his son and his ilk will blame it on Sinn Fein....and there goes any hope of political progress in NI.

A possibility, but I don't think it would wash, not least because there are also people on the loyalist side with racist views, e.g. links between certain Loyalist paramilitaries and the neo-Facist 'Combat 18' group.

Much as I do not share Sinn Fein's politics they are firmly anti-racism and indeed are a socialist party, although some of their supporters appear to have a blinkered view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but that in and of itself should not be intrepreted as evidence of anti-semitism. Whoever set up this website has nothing to do with Sinn Fein.
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Ah, a geocities site I see. Very professional.
Yes but if you clink on the links icon there are links to 'discussion' (i.e, propaganda) sites including David Duke's Stormfront website.
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Yes but if you clink on the links icon there are links to 'discussion' (i.e, propaganda) sites including David Duke's Stormfront website.
Stormfront isn't David Duke's site. It's operated by an independent white nationalist.

It also happens to have the historical distinction of being the first known hate site on the internet.

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Stormfront isn't David Duke's site. It's operated by an independent white nationalist.
But Duke originally set it up I thought?
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But Duke originally set it up I thought?
Nope. He didn't. But I'm sure the founder and current owner of the site would find him to be a kindred spirit.

I'm still bemused over how David Duke tried to lie his way into the Republican nomination for president in 1992, pretending he was a changed man and all that. The public, thankfully, didn't buy it, because he went back to all his old activities after he lost.

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I once typed "knights" into Google looking for medieval stuff and the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan have a web site, or at least they did.
Hate sites.
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Wasn't there previously a fascist movement in Ireland during the 1930s? Blueshirts or something like that--I thought that was how Fine Gael originally got started, actually...

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...those forced into slavery in the harsh conditions of the west Indies to line the pockets of the Jew financed proto Zionist british government.
Ah yes, that great philosemite, Oliver Cromwell...

Unfortunately for this theory, Jews were forbidden to live or even travel in England at the time of Cromwell's invasions. Which had been true since Edward expelled them in 1290.

A novel claim though, I have to say I've never seen this one before.
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:10 AM   #15
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Indymedia has been doing some research:

http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php...ment_id=88357.

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"With all the fuss over Justin Barrett not speaking at U.C.D. and then speaking at N.U.I.G. I decided to have a look at some of the websites frequented by fascists in Ireland and see what type of people hung out there. In one thread on the Irish Nationalist website someone identified themselves as having worked on Justin Barrett’s election campaign, another as a justin Barrett supporter and someone else gave the user name of the nazi skinhead who got into a fight at the back of the lecture theatre when Barrett tried to speak in U.C.D. By going through these sites i hoped to learn more about the kind of people who support Justin Barrett and the type of people who will turn out and watch him speak.
Defending his absence from UCD on the night Justin Barrett was to speak someone called “IrishThirdPosition” (who describes himself as “21, good looking and totally unpredictable” and appears to be a Westmeath supporter) excuses himself by saying that “I was very much involved with JB's (i.e. Justin Barrett’s) European election campaign, and even chaired one of his national information meetings earlier this year”. After having identified himself as an active supporter of Barrett and a participant in his election campaign I was curious to see what other interests IrishThirdPosition had. He claims to visit Barretts website quite regularly and also signs all his posts with a link to a site called ‘Political Soldier’. I figured I’d check that site out and see where else Barrett supporters like to hang out on the web.
‘Political Soldier’ bills itself as a ‘ZOG buster’ site (ZOG stands for Zionist Occupational Government- the public face of the Jewish conspiracy which runs the world don’t ya know!). This delightfull website sells some very distasteful merchandise; books on the ‘holohoax’, and a special section on Judasism with titles like “Towards an evolutionary history of anti-semitism”. Their books on ‘morality’ include the rather unsubtle title “The Death Penalty for Homosexuals is Prescribed in the Bible” written by Pastor Peter J. Peters. Journals are also sold on this site ; titles like ‘Blood and Honour’, ‘Nationalist Dawn’, ‘New York Third Positionist’ and ‘The Voice Of St.George’
They also sell a range of clothing options; 2 colour t-shirts with ‘fascist eagle’ or ‘waffen ss’ or the “Eagle's head with the SS runes, and German Iron Cross. Plus words 'Soldaten der Liebstandarte SS Adolf Hitler'” model, hoodies bear similar messages as do the polo shirts available. The oh so subtle range of ‘blitzkrieg’ clothing is also available.
For the fascist or Barrett supporter with plenty of leisure time or looking for some Christmas presents for friends and family they stock some Mussolini playing cards, a bust of Mussolini, some anti abortion or Spanish fascist postcards (you could send them home while visiting a Forza Nuova rally in Italy or an NPD meeting in Germany. Funnily enough Forza Nuova and the NPD have a range of merchandise available on the site as well). Other gifts include wallets and coin holders stamped with the “Charlemagne SS Division” logo amongst others. Keyrings and keychains with similar fascist and nazi emblems are also available. For the caffine addict you can purchase an Ian Stuart (dead English Nazi skinhead, used to be in a band called screwdriver) or Rudolf Hess (Deputy Führer and considered to be the number 3 man in Hitler's Germany) coffee mug.

The links section carries internet connections to www.AryanNetwork.com, record companies specialising in ‘hatecore’, ‘political nationalistic racial aware’ (sic) parties from across Europe and the usual shite you’d expect on Nazi websites. It’s probably a lot like the stuff Justin Barrett runs into on his trips across Europe but I guess its not the type of thing he’d like to be publicly associated with over here."


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