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Old 03-04-2008, 10:14 PM   #121
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I'm just wondering what the situations in Michigan and Florida's primary voting have to do with the general election since they aren't even counting towards the nomination at this point.
If you favor Obama, you're going to make the Democrats lose.

I'm guessing that's his point.
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You could have voted "undecided", like many other Democrats or Independents. That's what I did, despite knowing that it was a futile effort and Hillary would come out the winner.

I would like Michigan to hold another primary but, at this point, I'm not holding my breath. We (stupidly) broke rules.
That's true, but my thinking at the time was that Hillary would win as you said, and that the votes wouldn't mean anything come nomination time.
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If you favor Obama, you're going to make the Democrats lose.

I'm guessing that's his point.
Can't say I agree, since Hillary unites the GOP like none other, but whatever.
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PA will go Democratic. That I can assure you.
Time will tell!!!!!
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You could have voted "undecided", like many other Democrats or Independents. That's what I did
there was a huge effort to do this

many believed that "undecided" would come in ahead of Hillary

thus giving her a severe set back.
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Time will tell!!!!!
Certainly, some major happening could swing PA, since it is still a "purple" state, but barring any huge surprises, I'm calling PA for the Democractic candidate in November.
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there was a huge effort to do this

many believed that "undecided" would come in ahead of Hillary

thus giving her a severe set back.
Yeah - look how wonderfully that turned out.

Stupid Michigan.
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PA will go Democratic. That I can assure you.

we will....



unfortunately
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unfortunately
I agree with one of those two statements.
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PA will go Democratic. That I can assure you.
No one should take Pennsylvania for granted. It has been a battleground state the past two elections and was only won by Kerry by 2 percentage points in 2004. It is indeed in play, and McCain may be able to devote more time and money there than past Republicans have if his current 15 point lead in Florida is maintained.

Wisconsin and Oregon are other Blue states that are vulnerable based on the latest polling.
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I agree with one of those two statements.

you cant vote!



haha sorry i couldnt think of anything good to say back.
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Yeah - look how wonderfully that turned out.

Stupid Michigan.
if people could set aside their Obama bias

they would have to accept that the voters in both Mich and Florida chose Hillary


just like the voters in South Carolina and Vermont chose Obama
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Was Obama on the ballot in those states, deep?

Did Obama campaign in those states, deep?
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Latest poll in Massachusetts by Survey USA has Obama only up by 2 percent over McCain, 48% to 46%. But if Hillary is the nominee, she beats McCain by 9 points, 52% to 43%. I highly doubt that McCain could win the most heavily Democratic state in the country, but the polling is at least suggestive that McCain has strong pull in Blue states that past Republican candidates have not had.
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Was Obama on the ballot in those states, deep?

Did Obama campaign in those states, deep?
Clinton didn't campaign there either, though.

I have to agree with deep that Clinton might actually be stronger in the three traditional battleground states that usually decide elections - Florida, Ohio, and PA. However, others have a point that Obama might be able to break through in states traditionally won by Republicans. The question is, which states would those be, and how many electoral votes would they have compared to OH, FL, and PA?
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