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Old 09-02-2008, 11:57 PM   #976
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don't look now, but it appears that Palin has her own Rev. Wright.
Except Palin is white, and there's no shortage of wacky white pastors. The only reason Rev. Wright was an issue was because of white phobias about "angry blacks"--e.g., racism.

Instead, Palin's pastor will be more likely embraced as part of the illustrious group of nutty white pastors that form the power center of the "Religious Right," rather than condemned as a lunatic like Rev. Wright.
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I've encountered that rumor/prediction a couple times today on various sites. Unfortunately, I think it is certainly possible, and I wouldn't toss that guess aside too quickly.
Again, being more of a believer in the Democrats policies this would no doubt be a great thing to occur...however it will not happen!!! No way, no how. O.K., I'll admit this election has had more weird occurances than any other in my memory so for the sake of argument let's say it does happen...if it does then one of two things will happen...
1. The Republican's will lose the election by a landslide
2. The Republican's will lose the election by a small margin

If she leaves the ticket, the Republican party will implode. They will not allow this to happen...unless this is part of some master plan for 2012...but let's not get into that conspiracy theory for at least a few years.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:17 AM   #979
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I don't feel it does. I'm sure being a POW shaped part of who he is. That doesn't mean it should be an explanation of why he should be president. One has nothing to do with the other. And for the record, I don't feel Obama's experience as a community organizer makes him qualified to be president either.
So what makes Obama qualified to be President? Are any of them related to his life experiences?
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From personal experience, I can tell you that when people live through war - and I mean war in the streets where women and children are dying, when it ends, they seem to have one of two views. Some become gung-ho about war and are quick to go back to war. A lot of the time they do it not out of malice but because they think their position is principled. Others become completely or very anti-war.

McCain makes me very VERY uncomfortable because he reminds me of people in the first category and I belong in the second. So his POW experiences sure did shape who he became, but I don't like his foreign policy one bit, so that I don't particularly see this as some kind of virtue.

I am sure other people do.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:31 AM   #981
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her paper-thin record on Israel
So maybe it would have done her better if she "went to the wailing wall at 5 a m and had her people put up a banner and used the holy site for a cheap campaign photo op"?
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but I don't like his foreign policy one bit
I agree. As a (socialist of course) foreigner I'm all but convinced of what he has said regarding his foreign policies so far.
Nonetheless, I would take his foreign policy approach over that of Giuliani any day and twice on Sunday. That one really frightened me.
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Nonetheless, I would take his foreign policy approach over that of Giuliani any day and twice on Sunday. That one really frightened me.
I'd vote for Obama over Giuliani

I'd vote for John Edwards over Giuliani

Giuliani was the biggest joke in this whole election cycle.
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I'd vote for Obama over Giuliani

I'd vote for John Edwards over Giuliani

Giuliani was the biggest joke in this whole election cycle.
And what, in your mind, are the biggest differences between Guiliani and McCain that make McCain that much more appealing to you? I'm not trying to prove anything here, I'm genuinely asking a question.
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I remember when he was my top choice. I still have my Giuliani '08 t-shirt.
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And what, in your mind, are the biggest differences between Guiliani and McCain that make McCain that much more appealing to you? I'm not trying to prove anything here, I'm genuinely asking a question.
What experience did Giuliani have?
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I remember when he was my top choice. I still have my Giuliani '08 t-shirt.
you do realize if he got the nomination

it would be the GOP
that would be taking all the hits about qualifications
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Sorry pal, it's obviously you that haven't been reading properly. What's going to tear the Dems apart is this constant nagging and bickering about Palin and her daughters prenancy - this is hypocritical in exactly the same way if the page was turned and it was Obama's daughter the Republican's would have a field day with it - having said that, what I'm getting from watching many Democrats bickering on news talk shows is that the majority of folks watching are going to be turned off the Democrats because of this. They are going to side with the underdog (Palin) and fight the bullly (The Democrats)...maybe McCain is smarter than everyone thinks and knew this is exactly what would happen. Or maybe not. But I'm really beginning to wonder from the majority of reactions from the "left" on such a non-issue as some teen girl getting knocked up. Let it go already. Before it bites you where it hurts.
Which Dems are talking about it? The media circus is talking about it, right radio is talking about it, but which Dems are talking about it? Please show me. Has anyone in here condemned or judged them?
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I remember when he was my top choice. I still have my Giuliani '08 t-shirt.
Rudy did a good job w Brokaw.

Rudy NY pimped slapped him at least a 1/2 dozen times all under 2 minutes.

YouTube - Giuliani Slams Obama's Experience

Tom look like a deer in the headlights.

Another honest question regardding "vetting" Sarah vs Obama.

The MSM has vilified Sarah and her family more over the last 72 hours than Obama over the last 2 years.

How can honest people can defend that here?

While Sarah has been beaten over the head by the Left Stream Media for the last 3 days, Obama has been coddled for 2 years.

And he still only has a fragile lead over John McCain -even with all the favored press.

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So what makes Obama qualified to be President? Are any of them related to his life experiences?
Yes and no, for both candidates. I don't their life experiences, in and of themselves, make them qualified to be president. I believe it's the choices they made as a result of their experiences that prove their leadership ability. In other words, I don't think that serving in a war, or being a community organizer qualify one to be president. I feel it's the decisions made and paths taken both of these candidates after these experiences that prove they're qualified to hold office. Every experience, as you and others said, shapes who we are, so I'm sure both of these experiences in some way lead Obama and McCain to want to serve their country in government, which they've both done, and allowed them to run campaigns that proved they have what it takes to hold the office. That being said, I do disagree with nearly everything he stands for, and while I feel he may be qualified to be president, I don't feel he understands or had the plans that will help our country in the challenges we face at home or abroad.
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