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Old 09-02-2008, 10:34 PM   #931
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why don't you go read the Republican Convention thread instead of making self-righteous, self-serving judgments about others.
It's not your place to tell him where he can and can't post.
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did you read my post in that thread? the post that came before MI's obnoxious accusation?
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How dare they bring up stuff that has nothing to do with qualifications for being president!
Being a POW does have nothing to do with being qualified to be president. There have been thousands upon thousands of POW's during our country's many wars. I honor their service and bravery, and I'm grateful for all that came out alive, including John McCain. Very few would have the qualifications necessary to become president and be able to handle all the situations and complicated issues our country faces. That being said, I don't think anyone would mind McCain's POW experience being talked about at the GOP convention. It's a part of his story, and like all conventions, the story of the nominee is one of the biggest parts.
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Being a POW does have nothing to do with being qualified to be president. There have been thousands upon thousands of POW's during our country's many wars. I honor their service and bravery, and I'm grateful for all that came out alive, including John McCain. Very few would have the qualifications necessary to become president and be able to handle all the situations and complicated issues our country faces. That being said, I don't think anyone would mind McCain's POW experience being talked about at the GOP convention. It's a part of his story, and like all conventions, the story of the nominee is one of the biggest parts.


will you stop with your distinctions, nuance, and understanding?

it keeps the Republicans from being able to view their opponents as communist sympathizers who eat aborted babies for breakfast.
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will you stop with your distinctions, nuance, and understanding?

it keeps the Republicans from being able to view their opponents as communist sympathizers who eat aborted babies for breakfast.
Sorry. I always forget to turn off the button in my mind that allows me to form logical, rational thoughts. It would make life so much easier if I did, though.
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did you read my post in that thread? the post that came before MI's obnoxious accusation?
Sure, but I don't understand what that has to do with anything.
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Being a POW does have nothing to do with being qualified to be president. There have been thousands upon thousands of POW's during our country's many wars. I honor their service and bravery, and I'm grateful for all that came out alive, including John McCain. Very few would have the qualifications necessary to become president and be able to handle all the situations and complicated issues our country faces. That being said, I don't think anyone would mind McCain's POW experience being talked about at the GOP convention. It's a part of his story, and like all conventions, the story of the nominee is one of the biggest parts
Laughable.

This should be in the Republican convention thread BTW, don't you think?

Exactly what experience does qualify someone for president? Because the life experiences of these folks, to me, seem the most important of all. It's who they are, and bears GREAT, GREAT influence on their decisions related to such matters as... let's say...



war.
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erm, is it just Democrats who are talking about this? it seems it's the Republicans who are on TV "defending" the pick and explaining away the drip-drip-drip of strangeness.

and it's only been 72 hours.

did the McCain campaign not see this coming? i thought she was thoroughly vetted?

it is interesting to note, the McCain campaign is lashing out at CNN for simply asking for a single example of Palin commanding the Alaska National Guard — as retribution, they pulled McCain off Larry King tonight.

I don't know that I'm fair and biased but she was clearly just trying to ask him a question.

"retribution" = ?
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Sure, but I don't understand what that has to do with anything.


firstly, it seems more appropriate to talk about the RNC in the RNC thread.

but in that thread i wrote a post specifically about McCain's POW experience, and then we get another sweeping conservative generalization that's inaccurate, and also offensive.

i was personally offended by MI's post, as if i'd mock the actual experience of being a POW -- which is entirely distinct from using the status of being a POW as both a reason in and of itself to be CIC and as a justification/explanation for everything in one's life.

these are distinctions that have been made, consistently, and at length, by the "Obama supporters" who've called out McCain using his POW status to talk about his 7 houses. and still, we get these histrionics.

it's frustrating and, yes, offensive.
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Laughable.

This should be in the Republican convention thread BTW, don't you think?

Exactly what experience does qualify someone for president? Because the life experiences of these folks, to me, seem the most important of all. It's who they are, and bears GREAT, GREAT influence on their decisions related to such matters as... let's say...



war.


i'll say it again. being a POW in and of itself is not a qualification for being president.
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I frankly am one of those conservatives that is sick and tired of it... every time I turn on the TV. I don't know what democratic punk pundit they had on CNN tonight before the convention, but he was like... "this is a story that won't go away".

Such BS.
I'm anything but a "Conservative" or "Republican" although on the issue of abortion I am pro-choice-but...meaning I don't think they should overturn Roe v Wade BUT at the same time all sides should always ENCOURAGE ADOPTION OVER ABORTION...Having said that, I'm anything but conservative or Republican and this stuff is starting to really bug me...what I mean is if I'm feeling towards this woman then how many folks in middle America are??? This quite possibly could tear the Democrats apart. The only sane Democrat seems to be Obama himself.
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Laughable.

This should be in the Republican convention thread BTW, don't you think?

Exactly what experience does qualify someone for president? Because the life experiences of these folks, to me, seem the most important of all. It's who they are, and bears GREAT, GREAT influence on their decisions related to such matters as... let's say...



war.
Certainly not being in a war. What experience qualifies someone to be president, the biggest and most powerful job in our government? Oh, I don't know, maybe actually having served in government? If being in a war makes one qualifed to be president, than my grandfather and my great uncles should've been nominated years ago. They all served our country heroically, and 2 of my uncles even went blind during World War II, and they were all injured, though not severely, in some capacity. I wouldn't want any of them being president. Having fought in a war certainly doesn't mean you're capable of running one, or running the country. By your logic, no one should ever bother to run unless they've served in the military. That's absolutely ludicrous. Franklin Roosevelt never joined the military. He is one of our best presidents and was an excellent Commander in Chief of our troops during World War II. Ulysses S. Grant was a general during the Civil War and was one of our worst presidents. One has nothing to do with the other.
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If being in a war makes one qualifed to be president, than my grandfather and my great uncles should've been nominated years ago.
We're coming from two far corners of the universe U2isbest. I don't understand why you keep saying this. I'm talking about experience, as in what you learn from it, and apply to your life. If you don't get that... then I hope you never have to hire anyone.

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How many conservatives to do we have in FYM? 8?
I'd probably be considered "centrist," except being gay and secular automatically means "far left" in U.S. politics. My Canadian friends already view me as "center right," at the very least, if not "conservative" by their standards, although that isn't very empirical frankly.

Guaranteed, though, if the GOP stopped being so downright bigoted and anti-intellectual, I think there would be more gay Republicans. As it stands, though, I really don't have any serious options outside of the Democratic Party, and so it doesn't do me any good to even contemplate voting Republican. I'm generally scared of most Republican elected officials, although, frankly, most of the "Blue Dog" Democrats are equally frightening to me.
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This quite possibly could tear the Democrats apart. The only sane Democrat seems to be Obama himself.
What are you talking about? What is going to tear the Dems apart? You keep rattling off, but you aren't making sense or addressing the issues that people are bringing up...
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