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Old 09-01-2008, 03:05 PM   #781
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I think this Sue Williams is a fraud.

the piece you posted is just a thinly disguised bit of creative writing with enough tid bits thrown in to lead some people to believe it is legit.
Oh deep, how can we ever trust your judgment again?
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Maybe if I'd gotten pregnant in high school, my parents wouldn't have divorced.

Damn kids!


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exactly the right thing to say.
part 1

Ann Dunham was a pregnant unmarried 17 year old.

Bristol Palin is a pregnant unmarried 17 year old.

If Roe v Wade were the law of the land in the 1960s there is a chance, and it may be fair to say a good chance that Obama would have been aborted.


The fact that anyone on the left, is even looking to gain any kind of advantage with this very, very common situation is bizarre.









part 2

Now, lets get back to the real story here,
I heard that the Palin's have an undocumented worker in their household, and Mr Palin knocked her up.

She blackmailed them, they gave her $100,000 and got the baby, and the woman has left the country.
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Damn kids!

I was young and stupid 2 years ago. I didn't know any better.
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exactly the right thing to say.
And a great example of his good judgement.
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Oh deep, how can we ever trust your judgment again?
If the woman had just written that Palin had Trig
and Bristol is pregnant, or may be pregnant.

I would not have said it was "creative writing."

Where did I ever say Bristol is not pregnant?

What I did say is that Trig is Sarah's baby.




It is a rather long piece with all this creative crap thrown in about Palin family, their judgment, etc.
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If Roe v Wade were the law of the land in the 1960s there is a chance, and it may be fair to say a good chance that Obama would have been aborted.
Interracial relationships were deeply frowned upon by society in general when she was pregnant too. I guess that means there was a good chance they never would have gotten together.

Well guess what happened?

...

This is nothing but idle speculation on your part, and you're reaching quite a bit beyond credibility. Unless I'm mistaken, you do not know Obama's mother, nor do you know what her thoughts on abortion were.

And here you are complaining about people creating something out of nothing.
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And a great example of his good judgement.
give me a break

what else could he say ??

Bristol Palin is his mother.
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If the woman had just written that Palin had Trig
and Bristol is pregnant, or may be pregnant.

I would not have said it was "creative writing."

Where did I ever say Bristol is not pregnant?

What I did say is that Trig is Sarah's baby.




It is a rather long piece with all this creative crap thrown in about Palin family, their judgment, etc.
Nice dodge.

You called her a fraud. The gist of her story turns out to be true. Sounds like a case of bad judgment on your part.
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give me a break

what else could he say ??

Bristol Palin is his mother.
You gave McCain props for not pulling a dick move by announcing his VP pick during Obama's convention speech - as if it was a class move. But yes, clearly, Obama denouncing these stories is merely political positioning.

Give us a break.
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The fact that anyone on the left, is even looking to gain any kind of advantage with this very, very common situation is bizarre.
I don't think anyone here is "looking to gain any kind of an advantage with this." I think that some of us are just pointing out that you may not (gasp) have the perfectly unbiased thought processes that you claim to have, and as such, are not a special arbiter of The Truth.

Like I said last night, in the grand scheme of things, a teen pregnancy story is kind of boring and pedestrian. However, rather than provide an example of a praiseworthy family who has pulled together in a time of crisis, I think it much better illustrates what abstinence training is likely to get you. As well, looking into this story has given me proof that Palin's judgment is warped, at best. In her own pregnancy, who the hell travels for hours and hours by plane when she has an amniotic leak, and she's carrying a special needs child? Not a devoted mother who cares deeply for the wellbeing of her unborn child. Those are some fucked-up priorities, right there. The woman's a nutcase.

One heartbeat away from the presidency, indeed. :shudder:
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Nice dodge.

You called her a fraud. The gist of her story turns out to be true. Sounds like a case of bad judgment on your part.
so you are admitting that I never said Bristol is or was not pregnant?

but, I consistently and early on said that Trig was Sarah's baby. And got it right.
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She was a member even before she became a mayor.

Why does Sarah Palin hate America?
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I think that some of us are just pointing out that you may not (gasp) have the perfectly unbiased thought processes that you claim to have, and as such, are not a special arbiter of The Truth.
Indeed.
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so you are admitting that I never said Bristol is or was not pregnant?

but, I consistently and early on said that Trig was Sarah's baby. And got it right.
good for you, you did get it right. But once again you dodge. Did you or did you not call this woman a fraud?
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