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Old 09-01-2008, 10:53 AM   #736
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Irvine,

I think you owe Sarah an apology.

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you're right.

i made up the story.

it was evil of me to mention that the story was even out there.

how i'll sleep at night is beyond me.

got any advice?
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:59 AM   #737
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you're right.

i made up the story.

it was evil of me to mention that the story was even out there.

how i'll sleep at night is beyond me.

got any advice?
if u want to ignore the fact that you were a gossip monger perpetuating a falsehood by left leaning "floggers"-that's your preogative.

i won't condemn you.

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if u want to ignore the fact that you were a gossip monger perpetuating a falsehood by left leaning "floggers"-that's your preogative.

i won't condemn you.

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do you even know what a flogger is?

it seems to me that you are in absolutely no position whatsoever to be calling others "gossip mongers."

go back and read every single one of my posts and point out to me where i claimed this was true, and where i rejoiced in the fact that it was true, and please show me where i didn't post evidence that contradicted some of the claims initially made by various other blogs, and please show me where i didn't point out that many other liberal blogs were condemning this story.

the truth is,

if this story has an honest broker in here in FYM,

it is me. i'm the only one who's presented information that supports and doesn't support this story. and i was also curious in exploring what the story could or could not mean to the overall campaign.

no dramatics on my part.

but you go ahead and make me into the bad man you need. we know some need an enemy.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:28 PM   #739
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Thank you!!!!! Which is why the war coul dhave waited. There was no immediate danger to the US or her allies.
Waiting would have only allowed Saddam more time to strengthen his capabilities given the collapse of sanctions and the weapons embargo. The longer you wait at that point, the higher the cost becomes in terms of casualties and money once action is taken.
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If her daughter wasn't then, she is now...

Palin’s 17-Year-Old Daughter Is Pregnant - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com
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That poor girl is going to have her pregnancy broadcast all over the world.
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To be honest, I could care less...
It's "couldn't care less".

We'll never take back the White House with such poor grammar.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:47 PM   #743
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I really do feel bad for the girl. She shouldn't have to deal with this in the public eye. I'm really interested to see the reactions of the staunch Right-wingers to this news. Are they going to throw Palin under the bus, or will they be able to forgive and forget?
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How does one prove that one does not have what one has destroyed?
The dismantlement and destruction of WMD materials leaves remains that can be examined to verify that it indeed happened.

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SInce we cannot prove they have it, and they cannot prove they don't we shall pick and choose from intelligence reports..... to scare people after 9/11 into supporting this war
As Colin Powell correctly stated, its not incumbent upon the international community to prove that Saddam has WMD, its incumbent upon Saddam to prove that he does not.

As the CNN poll already showed, the majority of Americans already supported the use of US military force to remove Saddam from power PRIOR to 9/11.

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And since the very intelligence reports we shall pick and choose from do not support action, we shall pick sentences out of context to make our case...
Saddam's non-compliance alone is enough to support military action, and none of the information that was not included in the NIE in 2002 would change the fact that Saddam was a threat that had to be removed. The idea that such information suggested Saddam was not a threat is absurd and would be in total contradiction to everything that the United States intelligence community, US military, 3 different Presidential administrations, intelligence agencies in other countries, and current and previous US military deployments and actions in the region since the end of the 1991 Gulf War.


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...And we shall promise our congress that we will indeed go through the UN but because we are afraid of the French Veto we shall use a vaguely proposed resolution that scholars can debate forever...it shall be called RES 1441 and it shall give us just enough cover to make war.
The Resolution was not any more vague than the resolution that authorized the use of military force to remove Saddam from Kuwait in 1991.


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And this shall ruin our ability to conduct honest foreign policy for years to come. Because even though it was the right thing to do...conducting it dishonestly...will Fuck us for generations.
Well, there are some people out there that passionately believe that. But with NATO conducting its largest military operation in history outside of Europe, less than a decade after it struggled to actually intervene in a conflict within Europe, it appears their beliefs are incorrect. The cherry picking by those opposed to the administration is not going to change the fact that no one lied.
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guess who Colin Powell is going to vote for?
If he did, it certainly would not be because of Obama's opposition to the removal of Saddam in 2003.
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Throw her under the bus? I don't think so. In fact, she is the model of what the right wingers would expect. Pregnant, but keeping the baby, and marrying the father. And mostly likely, fully supported by the Feminists for Life - Women Deserve Better , which helps teens like this still go to college, pursue their careers, etc... by encouraging extended family (and the father's family) to get involved.

Yay!

Kind of puts a dent into the other story though huh? She's five months pregnant.
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if a person really does not care

they don't spent time writing things that contribute to spreading the story.
Have I contributed to the spreading of the story?
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It's "couldn't care less".

We'll never take back the White House with such poor grammar.
It was 3 in the morning after a few drinks on a holiday, don't look to me to take back the White House at such moments.
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Pregnant, but keeping the baby, and marrying the father.
Just think, a little sex ed could have prevented this all...
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It was 3 in the morning after a few drinks on a holiday, don't look to me to take back the White House at such moments.
It's been done before...
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