Oh My God...McCain could win if he picks Palin!!!
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U2isthebest
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I never said he wasn't "qualified" to be president either. I, as you, simply disagree completely with his stances on the issues and policy goals. However, serving in a war is not a qualification for president, at all. We've had excellent presidents who served in the military, and excellent ones who did not. We've had terrible presidents who served in the military and terrible ones who did not. It's one's ability to govern and understand and implement policy for every issue facing our country that means one is qualified to president.
Irvine511
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don't look now, but it appears that Palin has her own Rev. Wright.
Irvine511
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the Rep's are trying to make Obama's running mate the New York Times.
maybe they think this will work.
deep
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Your information previously posted on FDR is a little misleading.
He attempted to join the Navy during the Spanish American War but was unable as he contracted measles. He served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy from 1913 and through World War I; when the U.S. entered the war in 1917 he offered his resignation so that he could apply for a commission in the Navy, but was refused by the President.
U2isthebest
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I was aware of that.He didn't serve in the military, though, and I believe that's what MadelynIris was referring to.
zonelistener
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Now that "Life Happens" is the mantra of the Republican Party, I would LOVE to see a thread of quotes/statements over the past eight years that refute the whole "Life Happens" statement. 
U2isthebest
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Now that "Life Happens" is the mantra of the Republican Party, I would LOVE to see a thread of quotes/statements over the past eight years that refute the whole "Life Happens" statement.
It's their version of "Shit Happens", which of course is their way of trying to shirk responsibility for the disasters of the past 8 years.
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Every experience makes a person who they are. How you know John McCain's war service didn't shape him in ways that make him more qualified to be President than he would have been without it? But you seem to be pushing the idea that it never helps make someone more qualified, and I feel that, for the right person, it can. Not every community activist is qualified to be President either, but that is being touted by Obama and his supporters as part of his qualifications.
I think you need to stop looking at this in such black and white terms. We ALL know not everyone who serves in a war is qualified to be President, but we aren't discussing everyone, we are discussing McCain, and it is very possible that his service has made him more able to do the job than he would be if he had never served.
U2isthebest
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I don't feel it does. I'm sure being a POW shaped part of who he is. That doesn't mean it should be an explanation of why he should be president. One has nothing to do with the other. And for the record, I don't feel Obama's experience as a community organizer makes him qualified to be president either.
Se7en
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"Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can't miss it."
oh golly.
deep
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Do you think if Obama served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 6 years,
anyone would question if he was ready to be Commander and Chief ???
indra
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I gotta agree with you Harry. It is despicable. Now not only are Democrats damned near incompetent, they are also vicious jerks. Oh joy.
(the whole Palin mess is still your fault though.
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U2isthebest
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Obama didn't serve as Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 6 years, so I'm not sure why it matters. And yes, I'm sure there would be plenty of people questioning if he was ready to be president. The argument then would probably be, "sure, he might have some national security experience, but what does he know about the economy...etc?"
Se7en
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Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview
god's will be done... to get a pipeline built? interesting choice of words i have to say.
@ about the 4:20 mark
Except Palin is white, and there's no shortage of wacky white pastors. The only reason Rev. Wright was an issue was because of white phobias about "angry blacks"--e.g., racism.
Instead, Palin's pastor will be more likely embraced as part of the illustrious group of nutty white pastors that form the power center of the "Religious Right," rather than condemned as a lunatic like Rev. Wright.
Harry Vest
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I've encountered that rumor/prediction a couple times today on various sites. Unfortunately, I think it is certainly possible, and I wouldn't toss that guess aside too quickly.
Again, being more of a believer in the Democrats policies this would no doubt be a great thing to occur...however it will not happen!!! No way, no how. O.K., I'll admit this election has had more weird occurances than any other in my memory so for the sake of argument let's say it does happen...if it does then one of two things will happen...
1. The Republican's will lose the election by a landslide
2. The Republican's will lose the election by a small margin
If she leaves the ticket, the Republican party will implode. They will not allow this to happen...unless this is part of some master plan for 2012...but let's not get into that conspiracy theory for at least a few years.
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indra
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So what makes Obama qualified to be President? Are any of them related to his life experiences?
From personal experience, I can tell you that when people live through war - and I mean war in the streets where women and children are dying, when it ends, they seem to have one of two views. Some become gung-ho about war and are quick to go back to war. A lot of the time they do it not out of malice but because they think their position is principled. Others become completely or very anti-war.
McCain makes me very VERY uncomfortable because he reminds me of people in the first category and I belong in the second. So his POW experiences sure did shape who he became, but I don't like his foreign policy one bit, so that I don't particularly see this as some kind of virtue.
I am sure other people do.
McCain makes me very VERY uncomfortable because he reminds me of people in the first category and I belong in the second. So his POW experiences sure did shape who he became, but I don't like his foreign policy one bit, so that I don't particularly see this as some kind of virtue.
I am sure other people do.
Vincent Vega
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So maybe it would have done her better if she "went to the wailing wall at 5 a m and had her people put up a banner and used the holy site for a cheap campaign photo op"?
Vincent Vega
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I agree. As a (socialist of course) foreigner I'm all but convinced of what he has said regarding his foreign policies so far.
Nonetheless, I would take his foreign policy approach over that of Giuliani any day and twice on Sunday. That one really frightened me.
deep
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I'd vote for Obama over Giuliani
I'd vote for John Edwards over Giuliani
Giuliani was the biggest joke in this whole election cycle.
namkcuR
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And what, in your mind, are the biggest differences between Guiliani and McCain that make McCain that much more appealing to you? I'm not trying to prove anything here, I'm genuinely asking a question.
2861U2
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I remember when he was my top choice. I still have my Giuliani '08 t-shirt.
deep
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What experience did Giuliani have?
deep
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I remember when he was my top choice. I still have my Giuliani '08 t-shirt.
you do realize if he got the nomination
it would be the GOP
that would be taking all the hits about qualifications
BVS
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Which Dems are talking about it? The media circus is talking about it, right radio is talking about it, but which Dems are talking about it? Please show me. Has anyone in here condemned or judged them?
diamond
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I remember when he was my top choice. I still have my Giuliani '08 t-shirt.
Rudy did a good job w Brokaw.
Rudy NY pimped slapped him at least a 1/2 dozen times all under 2 minutes.
YouTube - Giuliani Slams Obama's Experience
Tom look like a deer in the headlights.
Another honest question regardding "vetting" Sarah vs Obama.
The MSM has vilified Sarah and her family more over the last 72 hours than Obama over the last 2 years.
How can honest people can defend that here?
While Sarah has been beaten over the head by the Left Stream Media for the last 3 days, Obama has been coddled for 2 years.
And he still only has a fragile lead over John McCain -even with all the favored press.
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U2isthebest
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Yes and no, for both candidates. I don't their life experiences, in and of themselves, make them qualified to be president. I believe it's the choices they made as a result of their experiences that prove their leadership ability. In other words, I don't think that serving in a war, or being a community organizer qualify one to be president. I feel it's the decisions made and paths taken both of these candidates after these experiences that prove they're qualified to hold office. Every experience, as you and others said, shapes who we are, so I'm sure both of these experiences in some way lead Obama and McCain to want to serve their country in government, which they've both done, and allowed them to run campaigns that proved they have what it takes to hold the office. That being said, I do disagree with nearly everything he stands for, and while I feel he may be qualified to be president, I don't feel he understands or had the plans that will help our country in the challenges we face at home or abroad.
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