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Old 01-30-2007, 05:44 PM   #76
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In General Election match-ups, Rudy Giuliani leads all Democrats including Clinton, Edwards, Obama, Gore, Richardson, Vilsack, and Biden.


Go Rudy!

And I agree, it will be a while before the U.S. elects a woman or an African American as President.
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Rudy

Gore? Is he considering running???
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Any former, or current, Newyorker, will tell you that Rudy rules.
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nice way to dodge my question
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Rasmussen Reports sucks! Nowhere on their matchup did they mention Kucinich And why the hell is Gore in there? Did I miss something???
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I just thought of something...was Kennedy the last senator to be elected president? Anybody know? U2dem??
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Any former, or current, Newyorker, will tell you that Rudy rules.

not those who were sodomized with nightsticks by the NYPD.
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not those who were sodomized with nightsticks by the NYPD.
while i'm sure louima is not a big fan of rudy (and it was a plunger, not that it matters), one can not cast blame on rudy for the actions of one rouge cop and the three wittnesses (also cops) who did nothing to stop it.

now you can certainly have a problem with rudy standing up in support of the NYPD during the louima and diallo incidents. but frankly, did he really have a choice? can one really effectively manage a large government while alienating the state's police force, even when some of it's members did outrageous, incredibly wrong things?


but, alas, rudy was not beloved by all new yorkers. this is very much true. he did win re-election in landslide victories, and after 9/11 he was loved by almost everyone (even sharpton gave him a pat on the back)... but many of his policies were controversial at the time, even though in retrospect the majority of them did, in fact, work.
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I just thought of something...was Kennedy the last senator to be elected president? Anybody know? U2dem??
He was the last one, yes. LBJ was a senator as well, but as we all know was VP in between. Nixon also was briefly in the Senate before becoming VP.
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while i'm sure louima is not a big fan of rudy (and it was a plunger, not that it matters), one can not cast blame on rudy for the actions of one rouge cop and the three wittnesses (also cops) who did nothing to stop it.

ah, you're right, it was a plunger.

my comment was more that Giuliani's police tactics during the 1990s were seen by many as a bit Draconian. this is one reason why not all New Yorkers loved him, that and turning Times Square into Disneyland.

my own opinion, being an admirer and once frequent visitor of New York and not an actual New Yorker (though i think i get bonus points because my mom's from Brooklyn), is generally pretty good of Rudy, on the whole. you kind of need a heavy-hitting bastard-ass jerk-off to run a city like New York, and it was generally run very well and the city is a dramatically better place to live and work than it was in the late 80s'/early 90s.

and his unanimous 9-11 props are well deserved.

especially when one contrasts this to, say, My Pet Goat.
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Rudy has no chance.

Photos of him in drag + his 98 marriages + being pro-choice + pro-gay marriage = Titanic sized disaster. It's gonna be a hilarious GOP primary.
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Rudy has no chance.

Photos of him in drag + his 98 marriages + being pro-choice + pro-gay marriage = Titanic sized disaster.
Funny but all of that would make him the only Republican I could vote for

I went to a booksigning when he came out with Leadership. They said he wouldn't personalize any books, but my mother was getting one for her boss for her birthday and he took the time to ask her her name and wrote "happy birthday" in it- and there was a huge line there. I was impressed, and he was so gracious to everyone in the line that I could see. Obviously I know precious little about him compared to people from NYC, but I just like the guy.
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Rudy has no chance.

Photos of him in drag
it would be a bit funny telling the rest of the world that this is our president...



take that, france!
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Comedian Al Franken has decided to run for U.S. Senate in Minnesota in challenging incumbent Republican Norm Coleman, a senior Democratic official told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The official, who requested anonymity because Franken has not made an announcement, said that the comedian and former star of NBC's "Saturday Night Live" told her of his decision recently.

Andy Barr, the political director of Franken's Midwest Values Political Action Committee, declined to comment.

The news was not unexpected. Franken has been calling members of the Minnesota congressional delegation to get their input on a run, and he announced this week that he would be leaving his show on Air America Radio on Feb. 14. He told listeners he would be making a decision on a race soon.

Should he win the Democratic primary in Minnesota, Franken would take on Coleman, a first-term senator who is among the Democrats' top targets.
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