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Old 09-06-2007, 03:49 PM   #811
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you have Trent Lott.

you have George Allen.

you have Jessie Helms.

you had Strom Thurmond.


and you gave us ads like this (black men are going to fuck white women!):
If you want to make this a debate about the party of racists, you better look at the other side as well, where...

you have Senator Byrd

you have Al Gore Sr.

you have Dick Gephardt

you have Jesse Jackson

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock010603.asp



I pray it doesnt get to a point where you can't oppose a black Democrat without being called a racist.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:52 PM   #812
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I pray it doesnt get to a point where you can't oppose a black Democrat without being called a racist.
That was never stated.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:55 PM   #813
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How do you know that far too many Americans like him only because he is new, young, and black?
Don't play dumb, sir

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...ae7dca247e336f

"The truth is, I don’t know much about his politics or how he will run the country (quite frankly I’m more worried about how the next episode of Heroes will play out). I do know that he has the same color skin as I do and, to me and other black people, that counts for something."

You see that? Whoever this kid is, he is more worried about a tv show than how Obama would run the country. But hey, he's black, so that's all that matters to get his vote.

Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.
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That was never stated.
I never said it was.
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Don't play dumb, sir

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...ae7dca247e336f

"The truth is, I don’t know much about his politics or how he will run the country (quite frankly I’m more worried about how the next episode of Heroes will play out). I do know that he has the same color skin as I do and, to me and other black people, that counts for something."

You see that? Whoever this kid is, he is more worried about a tv show than how Obama would run the country. But hey, he's black, so that's all that matters to get his vote.

Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.
You're starting to sound like Laura Ingraham now, which, if you have seen my posts, isn't a compliment.

And this post now hints at a bit of racism.
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If you want to make this a debate about the party of racists, you better look at the other side as well, where...

you have Senator Byrd

you have Al Gore Sr.

you have Dick Gephardt

you have Jesse Jackson

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock010603.asp



I pray it doesnt get to a point where you can't oppose a black Democrat without being called a racist.


it's all about policies, sweetpea. but, sure, i'll play along with your muckraking article that was written to make people like you feel better after the Trent Lott fiasco. there's virtually no substance there, just some gaffs and some ancient history. the fact remains about Affirmative Action and, yes, Immigration. the racists love the R's because the party's stances on these two issues are closest to their own. the only thing in this article are examples of Democrats using race to bait the opponent. it's a political tactic. and it works. you know why? because most minorities think the Republicans are a bunch of racists. why do you think that the vast, vast majority of black people vote Democratic? along with Latinos, Jews, gays, etc.?

firstly, Byrd is a leftover Dixiecrat -- the people who became, you guessed it, REPUBLICANS after LBJ rammed through the Civil Rights Act in 1964. ALL the southern racists went to the GOP, and what did LBJ himself say afterwards? "we've lost the south for a generation."

you're going to bring up AL GORE SR!?!?! gee, why not talk about the policies of the Whigs?

Gephardt? where?

and Jessie Jackson? yes, yes, we've all heard of "Hymie-town." but what specifically racist policies has Jackson endorced?
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Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.


um, wow.

you freak out because i say that much of the Republican base is racist, and then you call black college kids ignorant, uninformed, and apolitical?

i'd report this post, but you're going to catch enough hell for it anyway.
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Don't play dumb, sir

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...ae7dca247e336f

"The truth is, I don’t know much about his politics or how he will run the country (quite frankly I’m more worried about how the next episode of Heroes will play out). I do know that he has the same color skin as I do and, to me and other black people, that counts for something."

You see that? Whoever this kid is, he is more worried about a tv show than how Obama would run the country. But hey, he's black, so that's all that matters to get his vote.

Go ask some college kids. Better, go ask some black college kids. They don't know jack squat about the world of politics, and probably do not care to, but they love Obama because he is one of them. That is absolutely absurd.
Read your post. Very carefully. Now there are so many things I can say about this post, but I will refrain.

But do this. Read and insert 'white' and 'Rudy', or 'Mormon' and 'Romney' and tell me how it is any different.
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um, wow.

you freak out because i say that much of the Republican base is racist, and then you call black college kids ignorant, uninformed, and apolitical?

Ok, fair enough. Allow me to correct it, then.

Ask most college students (especially black ones) who don't know anything about politics who they are supporting. When they say Obama, ask them why.

Actually, you dont have to do that. I've encountered plenty of them here at school, so take my word for it. People don't care. They like Obama because his black. There's no getting around it.
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Ask most college students (especially black ones) who don't know anything about politics who they are supporting.
If they don't know anything about politics, what does race have to do with it?
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Ok, fair enough. Allow me to correct it, then.

Ask most college students (especially black ones) who don't know anything about politics who they are supporting. When they say Obama, ask them why.

Actually, you dont have to do that. I've encountered plenty of them here at school, so take my word for it. People don't care. They like Obama because his black. There's no getting around it.
You are making yourself sound quite... well I won't say it.

Ask any person who doesn't know about politics who they are voting for and why, and it will come down to image or because their parents told them, or some other stupid issue.

That doesn't prove your point. Actually it just proves you have no point.
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Actually, you dont have to do that. I've encountered plenty of them here at school, so take my word for it. People don't care. They like Obama because his black. There's no getting around it.


is this any better or worse than those who voted for W on the basis of his being a "Christian" like them?
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is this any better or worse than those who voted for W on the basis of his being a "Christian" like them?
In that case, I have a problem with those folks as well. You shouldn't vote for someone just because he is a Christian. You need to look at their policies.

That being said, at least by voting for someone because of their religion, you get a sense of their values and beliefs that go along with the religion. I mean, if I voted for someone based on their Christianity, I would have a good sense of what their values are regarding things like gay marriage, abortion, etc. But of course there are exceptions. Voting for someone because he is black offers no such insight into their beliefs.
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They like Obama because his black. There's no getting around it.
First of all, that's debatable.

But even if we were to take you at face value, so??? Are we going to start legislating people's reasons for voting? Some Christians will only vote for a Christian. There's no getting around it. Some people won't vote for Hillary because she is a woman. Are you going to be whining about these contingents any time soon or are you more of a selective outrage kinda guy?
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That being said, at least by voting for someone because of their religion, you get a sense of their values and beliefs that go along with the religion. I mean, if I voted for someone based on their Christianity, I would have a good sense of what their values are regarding things like gay marriage, abortion, etc. But of course there are exceptions. Voting for someone because he is black offers no such insight into their beliefs.
Really? You really think that if you were a black male in the inner city, that you might not want to vote for someone who is black because his colour offers insights into his views on issues that are important to minorities? Like affordable housing, affirmative action, and so on?
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