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Old 12-08-2003, 11:25 PM   #16
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maybe the Devil's advocate in me makes me a good teacher...LOL

I 100% believe that the terrorism we face/faced was related to our foreign policy of the past 10 years. It is a policy based on the containment of a madman. Because we have been forced to have a military presence in Saudi Arabia, Al-Qaeda, has declared us the enemy. This war was essential, to change that policy.

#2 I feel that this war was necessary because the UN food for OIL program helped to stregnthen this man's hold over his country and oppress his people. It was killing them. It horrifies me that we allowed this to happen.


#3 I believed that there was intelligence that they had that there was WMD. I apparently was wrong.

#4 I have read recently more linkages between Saddam and Al-Qaeda than first thought that existed. I am not sure how valid they are. If they were real, why are they not being publicized as much.
#1 I agree, but I think it goes futher back then just 10 years.
#2 I too am horrified, but no one has ever given me one piece of evidence that this war was absolutely neccesary or inevitable.
#3 I think our intelligence was outdated and has failed us entirely too much in the last few years and have began to lose a lot of trust in our intelligence community.
#4 I have been following this somewhat, but to my understanding it's all been shot down so far, therefore probably why it's not been reported.
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Old 12-09-2003, 12:49 AM   #17
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#1 I agree, but I think it goes futher back then just 10 years.
#2 I too am horrified, but no one has ever given me one piece of evidence that this war was absolutely neccesary or inevitable.
#3 I think our intelligence was outdated and has failed us entirely too much in the last few years and have began to lose a lot of trust in our intelligence community.
#4 I have been following this somewhat, but to my understanding it's all been shot down so far, therefore probably why it's not been reported.
#1 The Containment of Saddam goes back 12 years,,,sorry..LOL

#4 I am not sure this is the reason why...but maybe...
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"Somebody should pay for the lost American and Iraqi lives when other methods could have worked."

And what other methods would have worked that had not already been tried in the previous 12 years?

Sherry Darling,

"That's incorrect, Sting. The UN made verifyable disarmament a requriment (as they should have) because Saddam was a clear threat to his neighbors. As the admin. rep. in this op-ed recognized in this article, he was not a theat to us."

Anything that threatens Security and Stability in the Persian Gulf Region is a threat to the United States. Anything that threatens Turkey, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and other Gulf States is a threat to the United States and the rest of the world. That has been US policy since the 1940s. Even Jimmy Carter stated he was ready to use Nuclear Weapons if needed to prevent the take over and disruption of most of the planets energy supply.

The Planet uses Oil for much of its energy. A sudden reduction or disruption in a large percentage of the Planets energy supply would have disasterous consequences for the global economy making the depression of the 1930s look like a prosperous time.
I do not get it,....that oil is for the most part under the soil of not western countries. Do you think we have the right to decide what to do with other countries natural recourses ? We made us selfs oil junkies,....
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"I do not get it,....that oil is for the most part under the soil of not western countries. Do you think we have the right to decide what to do with other countries natural recourses ? We made us selfs oil junkies,...."

We have an obligation to protect this planets supply of energy from those that would attempt to disrupt and destroy it.
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Sting,

I hear what you're saying, but it doesn't address the central problem this op-ed poses for me. You aruge that this war was of necessity. Okay, fine. What angers and saddens me is that clearly, the administration doesn't feel that way, according to this State Dept. official, and they waged the war anyway.



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I agree, Sherry. I don't care that people support the war in Iraq. I expect that. I care that this administration did this stuff. It's not cool.
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#1 The Containment of Saddam goes back 12 years,,,sorry..LOL

#4 I am not sure this is the reason why...but maybe...
#1 So you believe the terrorism we face is only due to the containment of Saddam?
#4 I think if there was a nugget of truth the conservative media would have jumped all over it, just like they did before.
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Richard Haass doesn't feel that way. I think most of the rest of the administration does though.
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#1 So you believe the terrorism we face is only due to the containment of Saddam?
I believe that the terrorism of the past 12 years from the first trade center attack to the cole attack to 9/11 is directly the result of the policy of containment of Saddam Hussein and Iraq. Yes.

Are there other factors...sure...is this the main one...absolutely.
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