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Old 11-12-2004, 05:35 PM   #61
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yeah, i'm sure you're right, i remember when garnett first started wearing that rubber band, pretty soon everyone on the junior high team had one. i know i had a cool red one from my paper route.

however, none of this changes the fact that earl is the man!
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:55 PM   #62
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yeah, i'm sure you're right, i remember when garnett first started wearing that rubber band, pretty soon everyone on the junior high team had one. i know i had a cool red one from my paper route.

however, none of this changes the fact that earl is the man!
fair enough
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Let's get back on topic here....
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:54 AM   #64
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The problem with these symbolic gestures of support is that they become a trite measuring stick of care (I have my ribbon on, so I care - where is yours).
That potential problem is much smaller than the benefits that can be gained by wearing a gesture of support. You know my view that more people need to be aware, more people need to add their voice in bringing justice to Africa. While the motives of some may be what you fear, I believe that wearing a white bracelet will spark more conversation and awareness. This emergency might register with people when they see numerous white bands on people through out their day.
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You can wear all the stuff you want - it would be far better to send money to the organization in need.
In this emergency our voice - our voice that we care and want something done - is what is most needed.

If you haven't already, please check out the intro to "Make Poverty History" campaign.

http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/

After the intro, please notice the first thing that is mentioned.

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We don't want your money.
Then, please note all of the organizations that have banded together to run this campaign. They scroll by on the bottom right corner.

World Vision, Unicef, Christian Aid, and Save the Children are there to name a few. All of these organizations do accept donations and do great things with the money they collected - but they are banding together to say that it isn't enough. Charitable donations aren't what is needed to solve the problem. The issues need to be resolved at a government level to bring about change. Sending money to the individual organizations isn't making the difference.
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Old 11-13-2004, 07:52 AM   #66
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thnaks, stars and BostonAnne, for trying to understand that this thread was only to provide info for those who were interested in supporting people's efforts to raise awareness of the Global AIDS crisis.

Instead, the thread was allowed to deteriorate to berate the very people's lives which are of the utmost importance - those languishing in desparate poverty and losing their lives simply because they are poor and born in the developing world.

If a person didn't approve of this idea, then the best thing was to simply find a post that they could FIND SOMETHING POSITIVE to contribute to. Instead certain posts here have made A MOCKERY OF THE UNNECESSARY SUFFERING OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE.

I truly wonder what Bono would think of some of the posters in this and other threads for discounting the seriousness of extreme poverty in our world and for offering nothing constructive but to belittle and make fun of his and other sincerely motivated people's efforts simply to help the poor!

I think he might have a few choice words for some people.

Blessed be the poor....
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Instead certain posts here have made A MOCKERY OF THE UNNECESSARY SUFFERING OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE.
Really, there have been posts that mock the poor? Where, please site one example?
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I truly wonder what Bono would think of some of the posters in this and other threads for discounting the seriousness of extreme poverty in our world and for offering nothing constructive but to belittle and make fun of his and other sincerely motivated people's efforts simply to help the poor!
yet again show me examples, where have the people you so wonderfully publically attacked done this. Show me where any of them have EVER disounted the SERIOUSNESS of poverty. Please, if you are going to say something about them at least quote them.

Clearly you have the market cornered on sincerity in your motivation. None of the conservatives could have ever done anything and have been sincere about it.

Bono works with everyone, maybe you should try and follow his example insteading of judging others SINCERITY.
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by discounting people's sincere efforts to raise awareness of poverty in our world by making unnecessary "fun" of wristbands or any other tool to focus people's attention on this issue, in effect you are belittling the seriousness of this issue.

I don't have to try to convince anyone of the truth I am speaking - all a fair-minded individual has to do is to read the way this thread was purposefully hijacked and they can "judge" who in this thread are sincerely motivated to help others and who aren't.

THE GOAL IS SOUL....

And I stand by my Bono statement. He WOULD have a few choice words to say to some who have posted here - you can figure out for yourself who that might be!

I just don't know why people can't find threads where they can be happy and post positive things - or do some people just post to tear down and destroy?
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I don't have to try to convince anyone of the truth I am speaking - all a fair-minded individual has to do is to read the way this thread was purposefully hijacked and they can "judge" who in this thread are sincerely motivated to help others and who aren't.

I, a fair-minded individual, have directed comments to both sides of this issue. Jamila, I so appreciate your inspiration and your drive to bring justice to Africa - but quite frankly - you are as judgmental as those you criticize.

People have a right to wonder what the point of the bracelet is. You would be much more productive to answer them with facts instead of insults. Don't take the thread hijacking personally. Everyone's threads get hijacked here and there - not just yours. If you want a thread of 100% agreement to everything you say, FYM isn't the place to get that.

If someone is out of line in their critiscizms to you, I'll always be there to support you - but please take a step back and stop asking for trouble by getting others riled up.
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PS. I am in 100% agreement on helping with the emergency to bring justice to Africa, but I am not in 100% agreement of your opinions of those that don't get it yet.
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i think we all wasted too much time debating if it was appropiate to wear the bands or not.

if i was suffering in an impoverish country and i saw wealthy americans debating on what color, type of wrist band to wear- while my family and countrymen were suffering and dying around me, i would somehow find the strength to slap the sh#t out of the nattering debators, and exhort them to send the f*cking aid or f/o.

how much time was ill spent on this thread?
how many ppl died while we debated?

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror. For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.
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i find it funny how people, without naming names of course, plead with people to remain positive while slamming other people, without naming them, for having a disagreeing viewpoint. it makes me laugh.

i would like someone to point out in one thread where I, seeing as I don't care of the whole ribbon/bracelet thing, have criticized the poor or sick or whatever?

frankly, the only criticizing i see going on is by YOU, no names mentioned of course, telling me that i haven't done anything and don't care about people with aids, people in poverty, people with cancer just because i chose not to broadcast it to the world. you have no clue what i do, charity wise. and you will continue to have no clue, because it's no one's business but my own.
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These kinds of discussions are self-defeating...come on guys, let's all step back from the ledge.
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Old 11-13-2004, 06:32 PM   #75
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la la la la la you're all being rediculous do de do la la!!!
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