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Old 10-25-2004, 11:59 AM   #16
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It appears the explosives were stolen during the collapse of the Saddam regime. Interesting how the UN sat on this information for months and months and issues its report days before the election.
Even if this is true, and the NYT and the UN were intentionally withholding this until a week before the election, it wouldn't be a problem if the Bush administration hadn't decided a year and a half ago to keep it secret.

In other words, it only foils the dishonesty of the Bush administration.
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But of the five ambassadors on the Security Council in 2002 who were reached directly for comment, four said they had never met Mr. Kerry. The four also said that no one who worked for their countries' U.N. missions had met with Mr. Kerry either.
Perhaps he met with them before he decided not to meet with them....
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Perhaps he met with them before he decided not to meet with them....
Gee, perhaps Bush decided to make the world safer before he decided that almost 400 tons of high-yield explosives that can be used as nuclear triggers weren't important to guard.
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Perhaps he met with them before he decided not to meet with them....
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Gee, perhaps Bush decided to make the world safer before he decided that almost 400 tons of high-yield explosives that can be used as nuclear triggers weren't important to guard.
Uh, yeah. I'm sure there is an executive order directing the military not to guard the explosives.
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Uh, yeah. I'm sure there is an executive order directing the military not to guard the explosives.
Be filppant all you want. Someone had to decide the site wasn't worth guarding. Personally, I'll hold the Commander-in-Chief responsible. You go ahead and blame the NYT or the UN if you want, but don't be suprised if some liberal thinks they're more intelligent than you as a result.
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Uh, yeah. I'm sure there is an executive order directing the military not to guard the explosives.
Then tell me why they were not guarded??

And why weren't the museums guarded? Why were the oil "supplies" the only thing guarded? Hmmm.

You know why, because Bush had no plan what to do after the fall of Saddam. He had no plan on how to control certain outcomes. When the cuban missile crisis was flaring up, President Kennedy and his advisors had EVERY SINGLE situation mapped out. Why? Because he asked EVERY SINGLE specialist on the situation.

Bush, asked one: God. Accoeding to Bush, God told him to attack Iraq, so why should he listen to anyone else, even his own father for pete's sake!

So, it doesn't matter when this info appeared, the important thing is that it did happen, and it could have been prevented had more planning gone into this war. It's also important for this info to surface, because it shows the President's lack of credibility, which is crucial in an election.
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Be filppant all you want. Someone had to decide the site wasn't worth guarding. Personally, I'll hold the Commander-in-Chief responsible. You go ahead and blame the NYT or the UN if you want, but don't be suprised if some liberal thinks they're more intelligent than you as a result.
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Wonderful arrogance
Here are the facts:

1) Bush didn't do jackshit to secure the weapons in Iraq, and

2) instead of being worried about that, you're more concerned that someone brought it up.

So excuse me if I'm displaying "arrogance" in wondering just what your priorities are.
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I'm not sure you have a full grasp of what you deem to be "facts".

And I would suggest sticking to the issues at hand, instead of going after individual members of the board.
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Its always entertaining to see old propaganda techniques.

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I'm not sure you have a full grasp of what you deem to be "facts".

And I would suggest sticking to the issues at hand, instead of going after individual members of the board.
I'm not going after you, thank you very much. I've responded directly to remarks you've made elsewhere in this thread, in a manner I believe to be consistent with the guidelines given in the FAQ. I do not intend to carry this discussion over to another forum, and when I've made remarks about you personally, I've noticed you're more than happy to respond in kind.

I'd day, given your responses, that your problem is more with the substance, and not tone, of what I've written. But I've long learned to expect that from conservatives; if they cannot respond to the questions at hand, they say how unfair it is that they're being asked in the first place.
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Ah, back to the generalizations about conservatives.
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Ah, back to the generalizations about conservatives.
Wow, another full sentence without a reply
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Right back at ya....
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