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Old 04-14-2008, 06:05 PM   #136
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What does that have to do with what we're talking about now?


That wasn't even Obama.
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Also, Obama called the country anti-immigrant. I know I am certainly not anti-immigrant. I'm anti-illegal immigrant. He later went on to correct himself, but I don't buy it. It isn't what he said.
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Rockefeller Apologizes For Suggesting McCain Was Insensitive Warrior


Huffington Post | April 8, 2008 03:04 PM
Barack Obama Endorsements, Jay Rockefeller,


Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., has apologized for comments he made about Sen. McCain that were reported in the Charleston Gazette:

"McCain was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit.

"What happened when they [the missiles] get to the ground? He doesn't know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues."

Rockefeller called McCain to apologize, and released the following statement:

"I have deep respect for John McCain's honorable and noble service to our country. I made an inaccurate and wrong analogy and I have extended my sincere apology to him.... I regret my very poor choice of words."

The Obama camp has also distanced itself from these statements:

"Senator Obama has a deep respect for Senator McCain's service to this country and doesn't agree with what Senator Rockefeller said."

there is a lesson to be learned here

when Obama supported Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. misspoke

he immediately apologized


and it went away!!


he did not try and spin it.
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I don't think anything Obama will say will appease you.


Just as nothing McCain will say will appease me.
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there is a lesson to be learned here

when Obama supported Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. misspoke

he immediately apologized


and it went away!!


he did not try and spin it.

Because there was no underlying truth to it.
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you believe there is underlying truth to Obama's stereotyping of small town people?
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Just as nothing McCain will say will appease me.

wanna bet?


President Obama
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you believe there is underlying truth to Obama's stereotyping of small town people?
Which is what is even more shocking. Most Obama supporters I've heard found nothing wrong with what he said.
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I already said, there is some truth, but as with any generalization there will be exceptions.

Voting patterns in 2000 and 2004, not just by people in small towns but all across America tend to support what he was saying.
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You're right martha.

I don't know why I'm expending my valuable time on this. I'm out.
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Which is what is even more shocking. Most Obama supporters I've heard found nothing wrong with what he said.
I guess Obama should have just called his wife a "cunt" instead, and we all could have gone on our merry ol' way.
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I guess Obama should have just called his wife a "cunt" instead, and we all could have gone on our merry ol' way.
Yeah, that's what I was implying.

How does this pertain to the topic?
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you believe there is underlying truth to Obama's stereotyping of small town people?
How many people here have lived in a small town? I have (and am currently).

How many people here have parents or relatives who fit the exact demographic that Obama would have been referring to? I do.

How many people would argue that true self-reflection and self-criticism is an inherent human trait? I don't.

And I think that there is definitely a nugget of truth to what he said.

Read this site sometime:

http://www.sullivan-county.com/

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Make no mistake, I'm no liberal or socialist.
It's a very close look at one man's take on rural life in Tennessee. And I'd say that this look at Tennessee is probably a very extreme example of rural life gone awry, but I feel as though it is creeping all over rural America. It is a tale of increasing insecurity, desperation, and--as Obama less-than-tactfully related--scapegoating.

As people no longer trust that government can make their lives any better, they cling to the usual three issues:

God, Guns, & Gays

And all three are being exploited by those in power--who happen to be making their lives even worse.

Make no mistake about it. "Rural folk" might vote for McCain, because they hate Democrats and are now insulted by what Obama said here. But a vote for McCain will just be a vote to put another nail into their own coffins.
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I guess Obama should have just called his wife a "cunt" instead, and we all could have gone on our merry ol' way.
if that was an accusation by some annoymous source 16? years ago
it would not have any traction



Obama's "small town" speech, was in a room full of people this weekend
as was the Rep. Geoff Davis "Obama boy" speech
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