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Old 09-10-2012, 01:14 PM   #841
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That was staged.There's no way the bodygards would let a person grab the president like that.
The Secret Service started coming forward, then he put him down. That's what I read He rushed back to his restaurant when he found out Obama was coming, only had 45 min notice so I don't think they had time to stage it.

Someone posted on Gawker-luckily the guy's not a Chris Christie supporter. Now that would be tough to accomplish, no matter how big your guns are. I shouldn't laugh at that, sorry. Wrong to laugh at that.
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I would vote for a Republican if one was available that I felt comfortable with. Can't find any.
What would it take for you to feel comfortable with a Republican?
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:00 PM   #843
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What would it take for you to feel comfortable with a Republican?
Personally I've voted for quite a few Republicans as long as they stay away from the party's extreme right and 99% of their social issues. The problem is that it seems harder and harder to do that these days.
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Christie is one Republican I'd consider voting for if he runs in 2016. That is, if I don't like the Democrat nominee. I like his no bullshit and tell it like it is attitude, even if he is hot tempered.
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Personally I've voted for quite a few Republicans as long as they stay away from the party's extreme right and 99% of their social issues. The problem is that it seems harder and harder to do that these days.
Agreed.

A Jon Huntsman type, for instance, if I saw a Republican along his lines running, I'd vote for him. If a Republican can come up with an economic plan that isn't the typical trickle-down, tax cuts for the rich sort of thing, and if, as noted, they leave the social issues alone or show some moderation on said issues (can be pro-life without actively trying to ban abortion/stop funding birth control, don't find it their business to try and stop people from marrying, etc.), I would be interested to hear what they had to say and if I think they have enough good ideas, I would vote for them.

Thanks for the pictures, MrsS. The Obama one makes me smile, that's a great story, and I agree with you on the Biden one . Ah, Biden...*Shakes head*.
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My college choir conductor stopped the Secret Service in their tracks during our choir's trip to DC. We were waiting to do a tour of the White House, and one of the girls felt suddenly very sick, and left the line, running toward a tree.

A Secret Service guy started running after her, and Doc stepped toward him: "HEY! What's the matter with you - can't you see she's sick???"

And the SS guy stopped and apologized!

/cool story cori
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Christie is one Republican I'd consider voting for if he runs in 2016. That is, if I don't like the Democrat nominee. I like his no bullshit and tell it like it is attitude, even if he is hot tempered.
What particular policies of his do you like?
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yeah i'm not gonna lie either, i too don't vote by party line, but rather by who i think should get the job.

i will admit that the only times i've ever really voted republican have been on a local level in a vain attempt to try to get rid of some of the corrupt politicians in town (who yes, just happen to be democrats - but there are corrupt politicians of ALL political persuasions out there). there have been some rarer times though where i did feel the best person was a republican. here in the south (pre-tea party) sometimes the party lines can blur and the only difference between the candidates is that little letter after their name. but these days? if i were choosing between a new england republican and a southern democrat, i'd probably pick the former (going by nothing but stereotypes here), though i'd obviously need to do a lot of research before picking anyone.

on a bigger level though, i did say back in 2005 if the presidential ticket in 2008 came down to mccain vs. clinton i'd vote for the former. my how things have changed.
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I don't want to sound too radical, but it is very difficult for me to see myself voting for a Republican.

I am socially very liberal. Pro gay marriage, pro-choice, secular, agnostic, etc.

I take a pacifist position on national defense, which is to say, you don't send troops into war unless you absolutely, positively have to.

I believe in protecting and improving what conservatives call entitlements - SS, Medicare/Medicaid, Welfare, and even eventually a public healthcare system.

Given these things, it just seems unlikely I'd vote for a Republican. Just being honest.
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If a Republican can come up with an economic plan that isn't the typical trickle-down, tax cuts for the rich sort of thing, and if, as noted, they leave the social issues alone or show some moderation on said issues (can be pro-life without actively trying to ban abortion/stop funding birth control, don't find it their business to try and stop people from marrying, etc.), I would be interested to hear what they had to say and if I think they have enough good ideas, I would vote for them.
I agree with that. A moderate on social issues who is fiscally responsible but still sees the importance of govt to help the less fortunate. Believes that we need to have some sort of national health care, as long as every state doesn't have a state system. I'm actually pro life but I wouldn't want someone who actively tried to do those things either. I don't like the term pro life, because I don't believe that pro choice people are anti life. It's not as simple and easy as that. I have my beliefs, but I live in a world where I know that lives and decisions aren't black and white and people face all kinds of circumstances that I've never faced. And I don't want to see women dead from self inflicted or back alley abortions. I think good sound economic policy can reduce and prevent abortions. So can good sex ed and all kinds of other things. I would vote for a Republican who can see all of those complexities.

Someone who is religious is fine with me, but not someone who makes all decisions and pushes policies based upon that. I am fine with someone who has whatever God they believe in help them get through the day and through tough times and decisions. Personally I admire that. But there's a big difference between that and policy.

Someone who completely respects women and who recognizes us as fully functioning adults. I don't want someone all up in my lady bizness and treating me like a patronizing daddy.
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Scott Van Duzer, the Obama hugger: Shop facing boycott - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com

The owner of a Florida pizza shop says people are boycotting his business because he bear-hugged President Barack Obama on Sunday.

“People are saying a lot of bad things and boycotting my restaurant,” Scott Van Duzer, 46, told POLITICO. “There’s no middle line anymore, and that’s exactly what’s wrong with our country right now.”

Btw the NY Times says that he asked the agents if he could hug Obama (like that I guess) and they said it was ok as long as he didn't take him away.
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I hope Obama supporters show up and support him. Does his shop take foodstamps?
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Scott Van Duzer, the Obama hugger: Shop facing boycott - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com

The owner of a Florida pizza shop says people are boycotting his business because he bear-hugged President Barack Obama on Sunday.

“People are saying a lot of bad things and boycotting my restaurant,” Scott Van Duzer, 46, told POLITICO. “There’s no middle line anymore, and that’s exactly what’s wrong with our country right now.”

Btw the NY Times says that he asked the agents if he could hug Obama (like that I guess) and they said it was ok as long as he didn't take him away.
I mean, that doesn't sound very different from what happened to Chick-Fil-A.
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I mean, that doesn't sound very different from what happened to Chick-Fil-A.
Except the right cried about that. I wonder if they'll be defending this guy's "freedom of speech"?
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There's all kinds of talk that this guy visited the WH in July and that this is all a set up. Maybe some people can't handle a Republican voting for and supporting Obama, it freaks them out. Maybe he's not even really a Republican, I bet he isn't. I demand a voting version of a birth certificate- whatever that is.

He's going to be on Anderson Cooper's talk show today, hopefully he'll get to the bottom of it. Even though he's not all serious on that show and doesn't even wear those cute dorky glasses.
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