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Old 08-30-2012, 09:09 AM   #796
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Anybody who has at any point in their live experienced abject poverty (and in this group I include myself and I think there are a number of others here) is able to comprehend the fact that poverty is an extremely complex, multi-faceted problem or state of being. I would hope that most thinking adults who haven't experienced poverty can also put 2 and 2 together and come to that conclusion. But what we get instead is the poor = lazy and/or unmotivated and/or unambitious.
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Thank you. I don't get how we got to this line of thinking, but it stuns me that we have people actually advancing such theories.

I greatly admire anyone who has been able to come up through poverty and go on to do well. I love stories like that. I hope any hard work I put in will someday pay off so I can be okay financially and be able to take care of myself and my loved ones the way I need and want to.

But those who did get successful didn't do it alone. There was a great amount of luck and right place, right time, right people helping them along the way, and to ignore those facts or deny them or whatever is incredibly naive at best and flat out lying at worst.

I'm just really sick and tired of that obnoxious mindset. How about politicians shut up about that crap and instead try and focus on an actual plan to get us these jobs they claim they'll be able to provide so they don't have to worry about us possibly being lazy or freeloading or whatever crap they think we're doing.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:29 PM   #798
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I was just looking to see if there are any decent movies opening tomorrow, and 2016 Obama's America is coming out Hey, George Obama is in it.



Genre: Documentary Cast: Dr. Paul Vitz, Dr. Alice Dewey, Dr. Paul Kengor, Willy Kauai, George Obama

Synopsis: Immersed in exotic locales across four continents, best selling author Dinesh D'Souza races against time to find answers to Obama's past and reveal where America will be in 2016. During this journey he discovers how Hope and Change became radically misunderstood, and identifies new flashpoints for hot wars in mankind's greatest struggle. The journey moves quickly over the arc of the old colonial empires, into America's empire of liberty, and we see the unfolding realignment of nations and the shape of the global future.

Emotionally engaging, 2016 Obama's America will make you confounded and cheer as you discover the mysteries and answers to your greatest aspirations and worst fears.
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I was just looking to see if there are any decent movies opening tomorrow, and 2016 Obama's America is coming out Hey, George Obama is in it.



Genre: Documentary Cast: Dr. Paul Vitz, Dr. Alice Dewey, Dr. Paul Kengor, Willy Kauai, George Obama
as you discover the mysteries and answers to your greatest aspirations and worst fears.
Tall order for a mere movie.
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...discover the mysteries and answers to your greatest aspirations and worst fears.
So we will find out that there will be three new U2 albums in 2013 .... but they're also breaking up tomorrow?

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I was just looking to see if there are any decent movies opening tomorrow, and 2016 Obama's America is coming out Hey, George Obama is in it.
I saw it last week, not a good movie at all.

If you want a doc, see Searching for Sugar Man,
I recommend that for anyone that is a music fan and has a heart

or the French language film. Well Digger's Daughter
I recommend that for French speakers or anyone with an i q over 100 that does not whine about reading sub-titles.
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LOL, Cori.

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Synopsis: Immersed in exotic locales across four continents, best selling author Dinesh D'Souza races against time to find answers to Obama's past and reveal where America will be in 2016.
...the hell, are we turning learning about Obama into an action movie or something?

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Uh-huh.

We have the book this is inspired by at work. Yep.
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Obama's Rage
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:22 PM   #804
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This is the game changing book revealing the blueprint for a second term that President Obama and his progressive backers don't want you to know.

Months of painstaking research into thousands of documents have enabled investigative journalists and New York Times bestselling authors Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott to expose the secret template for Obama's next four years -- the one actually created by Obama's own top advisers and strategists.

Just as Obama concealed the true plans for his initial term behind rhetoric of ending partisan differences and cutting the Federal deficit, Obama's re-election theme of creating jobs conceals more than it reveals about his real agenda for a second term.

All the main areas of domestic policy are covered -- jobs, wages, health care, immigration overhaul, electoral "reform," national energy policy. Each of the plans exposed seek to permanently remake America into a government-dominated socialist state.
http://www.amazon.com/Fool-Me-Twice-...ce+aaron+klein

This book has been written by New York Times reporters.

There may be some truth to what they've written, and if it is, it doesn't sound so horrible. There are some people who seriously believe when he wins the election in November, Obama will declare himself dictator, outlaw Christianity, unleash a secret police guard and set up gulags to reform people. Crazy and insane as that sounds, it is true that some Americans believe this.
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this is the book the 2016 movie is based on

Amazon.com: the root of obama's rage: Books
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Regarding Pearl's comment at the end there-god, I'd love to know where people who think such things get their proof. At what point has Obama made it clear he wants to get rid of Christianity (would be especially interesting given that he himself IS a Christian, but, you know, whatever), for instance?

I'd love to know, but of course I know I won't get an answer, because there is none.

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Each of the plans exposed seek to permanently remake America into a government-dominated socialist state.
Sigh.

Seriously, can someone please tell me what the hell that phrase even MEANS anymore?

Looking at that book, yeah, all the stuff listed in there, if that's what Obama's plans are, it doesn't sound too scary to me, either. But hey, I'm the weirdo who's unknowingly supporting an evil socialist empire, apparently, so what do I know, right?
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Regarding Pearl's comment at the end there-god, I'd love to know where people who think such things get their proof. At what point has Obama made it clear he wants to get rid of Christianity (would be especially interesting given that he himself IS a Christian, but, you know, whatever), for instance?

I'd love to know, but of course I know I won't get an answer, because there is none.


Sigh.

Seriously, can someone please tell me what the hell that phrase even MEANS anymore?

Looking at that book, yeah, all the stuff listed in there, if that's what Obama's plans are, it doesn't sound too scary to me, either. But hey, I'm the weirdo who's unknowingly supporting an evil socialist empire, apparently, so what do I know, right?
Did a bit more research on those two authors, Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott. They've written many conspiracy theorist books on Obama, such as accusing him of secretly gathering his secret police. Klein also writes for WorldNetDaily, a radical conservative news site.

Amazon.com: Aaron Klein: Books

If you're asking how in the world did I come to know this, well, let's just say when I listen to the political beliefs of my family, I swear I was switched at birth or may be the milkman's kid.
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Seriously, can someone please tell me what the hell that phrase even MEANS anymore?

It doesn't mean anything.

Bu people like to repeat it because it makes them feel smart and important.
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Did a bit more research on those two authors, Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott. They've written many conspiracy theorist books on Obama, such as accusing him of secretly gathering his secret police. Klein also writes for WorldNetDaily, a radical conservative news site.

Amazon.com: Aaron Klein: Books

If you're asking how in the world did I come to know this, well, let's just say when I listen to the political beliefs of my family, I swear I was switched at birth or may be the milkman's kid.
LOL. I understand, I have relatives that buy into that stuff, too.

Good lord, that list just screams "Paranoid!". I truly can't imagine what it must be like to live your life thinking that everyone's out to get you and destroy the American (TM) way of life at every turn like that.

And speaking of America...

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If any conservatives on these boards need further explanation as to why we find that mindset a turnoff, I'd say the constant insinuations regarding who's "more American" than whom, who is a "true" American, certainly qualifies as a huge reason. I wasn't aware there was a proper checklist to demonstrate how American you were and prove your love for your country, but apparently it exists in some people's eyes.

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It doesn't mean anything.

Bu people like to repeat it because it makes them feel smart and important.
Apparently so. I'd just like the people who say such things to try and explain what they think it means once, I guess.
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