Obama General Discussion, vol. 3

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Obama is up today in the Gallup poll to 44% approval. 48% of Americans disapprove of the job Obama is doing as President.

Here is how other Presidents have faired at the end of November in the year before their re-election attempt:

Barrack Obama 44% November 2011

George W. Bush 55% November 2003
Bill Clinton 53% November 1995
George H.W. Bush 52% November 1991
Ronald Reagan 53% November 1983
Jimmy Carter 51% November 1979
Gerald Ford 41% November 1975
Richard Nixon 49% November 1971
Lyndon Johnson 42% November 1967
John Kennedy 58% November 1963
Dwight D. Eisenhower 78% November 1955
Harry S. Truman 23% November 1951
 
Everybody knew it was doomed, Chris. That said, I love this guy and his common sense approach and straight talk. He should run in 2016.
 
Obama-the-Dragonslayer.jpg


Perfect!!
 
To accuse the President of being a bystander in the Oval Office when the stated mission of Christie's party has been to un-elect Obams since his Presidential election is kind of a dick move.

Look, I am not happy with Obama at all, but I can't fault him for not being able to get legislation grinded out considering the poisonous atmosphere in Washington, especially since the drastic yaw to the right the country has taken after September 11th and our inability to deal with a few brown folks who hate us like adults. Most of that gas being pumped into the chamber is coming from the Republican Party.

It's like saying, "We've been trying to fire Jim from head of accounting for a couple years now, because we told him three years ago when he was hired that he was going to get fired and now we're super not happy with the job he's done, so he's still going to get fired.

There's a lot of things that government does badly, but the GOP, especially since the Tea Party midterms, has taken "starve the beast" to mean "wilfully, almost gleefully assist the country's nosedive into the ground to benefit their party politically".

Kinda wishing we just split most things up into state rights so I can move to a state far away from you malignant fucksticks. Wait, that won't help with the silly debt ceiling mcguffin, will it?
 
Isn't Congress in charge of our Deficit?



over the past 32 years, there have been exactly 4 years when the Democrats have been in control of both the White House and Congress.

Republicans do not care about deficits. they care about keeping taxes low on rich people. full stop.
 
over the past 32 years, there have been exactly 4 years when the Democrats have been in control of both the White House and Congress.

What's your point?

And in the 50 years prior to those 32 years, Republicans controlled the White House and both Houses for only two years. Out of fifty.
 
What's your point?

And in the 50 years prior to those 32 years, Republicans controlled the White House and both Houses for only two years. Out of fifty.



my point is the deficit, and the amazingly clear view INDY gives us into the mindset of the GOP base.

Republicans don't care about the deficit. they only care about keeping taxes low on rich people.
 
The Deficit equals the difference between spending and revenue in budget.

The Debt is the sum of everything the U.S. owes.

It's important to understand and explain the difference.
This is why I think the cartoon is stupid (well, one of the reasons).
 
And just 6 when Republicans had control. You reckon both parties are at fault?



i reckon one party doesn't care about deficits and only cares about keeping taxes low on rich people. so don't believe them when they tell you they care about deficits because they don't. they care about keeping taxes low on rich people.
 
I do kinda miss the photo ops of Dubya clearing brush on his property (the one he purchased to cultivate a false cowboy politicl image for himself).

If only he had stayed there and out of the Oval office.
 
Speaking of Dubya at his Crawford, Tx ranch...what ever happened to that nuanced liberal Cindy Sheehan?
I found her kind of irritating, but then again I don't have a fucking dead son so I don't know how I would react in that situation.

Sorry she bugged you.
 
Speaking of Dubya at his Crawford, Tx ranch...what ever happened to that nuanced liberal Cindy Sheehan?

She's still out there. She said that Osama's death was a hoax, and she attempted to get herself nominated as the Socialist party's Vice Presidential candidate.
 
Whatever happened to the good old days of pizza boats and raw milks in cardboard containers?

Fucking liberals.
 
New York Times, Dec. 8
President Obama, noting that he was the father of two daughters, threw his wholehearted support on Thursday behind a decision by his Health and Human Services secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, not to allow emergency contraceptives to be sold over the counter, including to young teenagers. “The reason Kathleen made this decision is that she could not be confident that a 10-year-old or an 11-year-old going to a drug store should be able—alongside bubble gum or batteries—be able to buy a medication that potentially, if not used properly, could have an adverse effect,” Mr. Obama said to reporters at the White House. “And I think most parents would probably feel the same way,” the president added.

Mr. Obama insisted he was not involved in the decision on a contraceptive pill known as Plan B One-Step. The decision by Ms. Sebelius, announced on Wednesday, was an extremely rare case of an administration official publicly overruling the Food and Drug Administration, which had concluded after extensive research that the medication was safe to be sold to teenagers younger than 16 without a prescription. The bluntly personal nature of the president’s response suggested that the White House is well aware of the political sensitivities, going into an election year, of allowing broader distribution of the contraceptive, whatever the Food and Drug Administration’s scientific arguments in favor of it.
Mr. Obama’s comments came in a combative appearance that followed the Senate’s rejection of his nominee to head the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Richard Cordray. The decision, the president said, “makes absolutely no sense,” leaving millions of Americans without adequate protection in their dealings with financial institutions, including payday lenders and debt collectors.
But Mr. Obama also used the occasion to address a range of issues, rejecting charges by Republican presidential candidates that he practices a foreign policy of appeasement, particularly in the Middle East. “Ask Osama bin Laden and the 22 out of top 30 Al Qaeda leaders who have been taken off the field whether I engage in appeasement—or whoever’s left out there, ask them about that,” the president said. Later, Mr. Obama argued that his administration had “systematically imposed the toughest sanctions ever in Iran.” He said the pressure campaign had left Iran isolated and unified world opinion against its leaders.
He also delivered some of his most urgent language yet on the European debt crisis. As European leaders struggle to fashion a response to the deepening debt crisis, Mr. Obama suggested that time was running short, saying, “I am obviously very concerned about what’s happening in Europe...I think they now recognize the urgency of doing something serious and bold,” the president said of Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany and other leaders. “The question is whether they can muster the political will to get it done...Europe is wealthy enough that there’s no reason they can’t solve this problem,” Mr. Obama said. “It’s not as if we’re talking about some impoverished country that doesn’t have any resources and is, you know, being buffeted by the world markets and they need, you know, to come hat in hand to get help.”

On Wednesday, Mr. Obama spoke with Mrs. Merkel by phone. He said she had made some progress in pushing other European nations toward a “fiscal compact” that would prevent a repeat of the fiscal profligacy that had gotten Greece and other countries into trouble, and set off the broader crisis of confidence. But Europe’s first priority, Mr. Obama said, was to settle financial markets. “We’re going to do everything we can to push them in a good direction on this,” he said, “because it has a huge impact on what happens here in the United States.”
 
I'm in agreement with the Plan B move. In fact, I think more drugs should be sold behind the counter. People do not know what the hell they are buying sometimes, my grandmother being one of them. She was addicted to off the rack sleeping pills for the longest time. She got to a point where she couldn't sleep without them. :down:
I think if someone was at least monitoring what she was putting in her body they would have confronted her much sooner, or at the very least explained to her that she needed to speak to a doctor if sleeping was such an issue.
 
A smart move on the plan B.

16, 17 year old will have no problem getting their hands on it.

Easy enough to find an 18 year old to buy it for them.

A 12 or 10 year old should not be able to buy this stuff.
 
I agree with the Plan B decision too. I don't want young girls getting pregnant, but something about them getting a drug like that over the counter bothers me too much to go along with it.

I do think there are political motives involved, don't see how it's possible that there aren't. I don't want to believe that he would play any politics with that, because he's a father to two girls and he's a good and decent man. But I think it's probably unavoidable.
 
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