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Old 09-05-2009, 09:15 AM   #421
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"yes kids, stay in school and work real hard so you can get a good paying job one day so we can collect more taxes."


do you really think Americans are overtaxed?
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yes

but im feeling escpecially grumpy and cynical today so who knows.
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yes

but im feeling escpecially grumpy and cynical today so who knows.



we pay lower rates than the rest of the western world, and rates today are now lower than they were in the mid-1990s.
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we pay lower rates than the rest of the western world, and rates today are now lower than they were in the mid-1990s.
you're just talking about what comes out of your paycheck. you're not counting all the other hidden taxes like sales tax and property tax and all the other things you pay for that get taxed.
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you're just talking about what comes out of your paycheck. you're not counting all the other hidden taxes like sales tax and property tax and all the other things you pay for that get taxed.
Yeah, because nobody else in the Western world pays those.

For example, in Ontario I pay about 3% more in sales tax than your highest sales (local+state) in any state in the US.

So yes, you are a very low tax jurisdiction even when you DO count all those other "hidden" taxes (not sure how they're hidden either when they're in plain sight, but there you have it).
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How much tax do we really pay?

if you think around 50% of your salary being taxed is reasonable then more power to you.
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does anyone truly believe that if you had to pay 80% less in taxes your employer would not lower your salary?
so unless you own your own company I wouldn't worry about it too much

with wealth comes taxes
if you don't want to pay them then give up your job, sell your car and grow your own vegetables
problem solved
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with wealth comes taxes
if you don't want to pay them then give up your job, sell your car and grow your own vegetables
problem solved
Or become Treasury Secretary or Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.
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do you really think Americans are overtaxed?
Attend the Tea Bag protest in D.C for an answer to that. (Wear something red, white & blue, a Redskin's jersey, a Lynyrd Skynyrd t-shirt or a "I luv Hannity" button and you'll fit right in)
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How much tax do we really pay?

if you think around 50% of your salary being taxed is reasonable then more power to you.
I think people in my salary range should be taxed very highly.

If we are not going to carry the burden, then who will? The lower classes on our behalf?

I absolutely think that as you go up the wealth scale, your sense of responsibility and obligation towards your neighbours who are not similarly situated should likewise increase.

If I gave you my gross and net income you'd probably faint at how much taxes I'm paying (I won't lie, it was a surprise to me as well, though not an unexpected one). But I am thankful for the things I have, the position I hold and all the immense opportunities that come along with it.

So sure, tax me. I still have a very good life either way.
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Attend the Tea Bag protest in D.C for an answer to that. (Wear something red, white & blue, a Redskin's jersey, a Lynyrd Skynyrd t-shirt or a "I luv Hannity" button and you'll fit right in)



wait ... i've been to teabagging parties but they were *completely* different.
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Attend the Tea Bag protest in D.C for an answer to that. (Wear something red, white & blue, a Redskin's jersey, a Lynyrd Skynyrd t-shirt or a "I luv Hannity" button and you'll fit right in)
And you'll see real informed folks like this:

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And you'll see real informed folks like this:



I love the old lady with the "ZERO TAXES" sign- as if her life would be so much better if she had to pay zero taxes. Does she even realize what would happen if we had to pay NO taxes...

No one likes taxes, but if we have the priviledge of living in a great free country, we have to pay our dues. Arguing against that is not only being selfish, and uninformed, but also spoiled and ungrateful. Get some perspective people! Live in a third world country and then complain about paying taxes as you live in America!
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I love the old lady with the "ZERO TAXES" sign- as if her life would be so much better if she had to pay zero taxes. Does she even realize what would happen if we had to pay NO taxes...
As she's sitting at an intersection and on a sidewalk built by taxes, and probably going to her doctor's appointment tomorrow under medicare...



But my fave is the "cut taxes not defense", I'm guessing she thinks the military is funded by free markets...
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But my fave is the "cut taxes not defense", I'm guessing she thinks the military is funded by free markets...

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