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Old 04-27-2011, 02:09 PM   #946
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White House releases Obama birth certificate - *News - MSN CA
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:53 PM   #947
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Rising Gas Prices: Can Obama Do Anything About Them? - Slate
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"I think the fact that [Obama] won't allow exploration in the Gulf, doesn't allow exploration in the inter-mountain west, won't allow us to drill in Alaska, this is not helping the situation," said [Speaker of the House] Boehner. "And then when you look at what the EPA is doing in terms of the number of rules and regulations comin' down the pike, those were his responsibility."

It would be awfully convenient if new drilling licenses in the Gulf and relaxed EPA regulations could drive the price of oil down. They wouldn't. "If someone tries to dupe you into thinking we don't have enough refining capacity, that's bullshit," says Tom Kloza, the co-founder and chief oil analyst of the Oil Price Information Service. "It's a good soundbite, but if anything, companies have probably added too much capacity, and if they add more they have to focus on managing margins." It's a good enough soundbite that a lot of Republicans use it to argue that the White House's dithering on Gulf Coast drilling, in the wake of the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster, is responsible for rising prices. Oil companies, in this telling, are stuck in a sort of "permitorium." But the Deepwater disaster didn't have much of an effect on prices. When the rig blew on April 20, 2010, crude was trading around $84 per barrel. When the well was capped on July 15 the price had fallen to $76.

A barrel of brent crude oil costs roughly $50 more today than it did back then. We have some idea why. The critical factor has been the unrest in the Middle East. According to industry analysts, prices have gone up because of worries both about what's already happening and what could happen. The civil war in Libya, a country that usually produces 1.6 million barrels of light, sweet crude every day, has added something like $20 to the price of a barrel of oil—a combination of decreased availability and speculative panic. Worries about what could happen in other OPEC nations are driving the price even higher. "At any moment, people wonder if you'll see firebombs in the streets of Riyadh," says Kloza. "The Saudis have to cut more checks so people don't demonstrate against them. That's not something they're used to budgeting for."
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The president—or members of Congress!—could skip the coming, predictable assault on oil company subsidies, and take on speculators instead. Wars and economic distress are not new to the oil market. But the market for oil futures has never been as big as it is now. It's basically quadrupled since the start of the financial crisis, as investors and funds have sought out safe, reliable commodities to invest in.

That's the political opening. The only question is whether anyone's actually able to go through it. Theoretically, the president of the United States could talk about this aspect of the gas price problem and elevate it. Unfortunately, the president is Barack Obama, whose every economic move is labeled "socialism" by the opposition, and who has already alienated some of the hedge fund managers in the center of this. A move against the commodities trade from Obama would be less Nixon goes to China than Johnson goes to Vietnam. But this is the plan Kloza is recommending to Obama, free of charge. "He will piss off Wall Street, no question," says the oil price analyst. "He will piss off Morgan Stanley. He will piss off Goldman Sachs. He will alienate people, but people will know he's ready to spank the speculators."
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:16 PM   #948
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it's barely been a year since deepwater horizon and people are already whining that we should explore the gulf? wow, some people have awfully short memories.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:17 PM   #949
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Not one person in here has ever stated that you're a racist if you don't like Obama's policies.

NOT ONE!

Why is it soooooo hard for you to address the actual topics? Surely you're informed enough to do so, right?

Drop the crayons talk, drop the s and be adult enough to engage, if not do not waste our time.

I was simply commenting on this statement:

I love how religion and this birther issue are just covering up the fact that people don't like having a fucking black person for president.
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I was simply commenting on this statement:

I love how religion and this birther issue are just covering up the fact that people don't like having a fucking black person for president.
i doubt bvs was talking about just you

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Old 04-27-2011, 08:24 PM   #951
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But when is he going to release his REAL birth certificate?
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:32 PM   #952
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I was simply commenting on this statement:

I love how religion and this birther issue are just covering up the fact that people don't like having a fucking black person for president.
No you weren't.

Beal was talking about birthers and those that think Obama is a Muslim.

Does that include you?

If it does then you're ignorant and it's not just the policies you don't like.

If it doesn't then that's not how you addressed it because you turned it around to be about you and how someone was calling you a "racist(s)".

Reading IS fun, try a little more of it
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besides even if he is, he is Sunni - that is the good side, like Saudi Arabia, our allies.

the Iranians are Shiite, Shiites are the bad Muslims.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:55 PM   #954
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No you weren't.

Beal was talking about birthers and those that think Obama is a Muslim.

Does that include you?

If it does then you're ignorant and it's not just the policies you don't like.

If it doesn't then that's not how you addressed it because you turned it around to be about you and how someone was calling you a "racist(s)".

Reading IS fun, try a little more of it




"Beal was talking about birthers and those that think Obama is a Muslim."


So, now that is the thought I was commenting on?


And I'm the one who needs to read more?
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I say, concentrate on this issues. F***, after two and a half years, there's plenty of ammunition to use in criticising Obama without going near race and background issues. His record, for example. I think the reason the right obsess over the birth cert stuff - and their next gambit, as Maycocksean rightly says, will be to claim that the birth cert is a forgery, the issue won't go away - is that it's an easy, lazy win for them. It lets them off the hook also, in that it avoids the responsibility to present solutions for fixing America's broken economy.
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I say, concentrate on this issues. F***, after two and a half years, there's plenty of ammunition to use in criticising Obama without going near race and background issues. His record, for example. I think the reason the right obsess over the birth cert stuff - and their next gambit, as Maycocksean rightly says, will be to claim that the birth cert is a forgery, the issue won't go away - is that it's an easy, lazy win for them. It lets them off the hook also, in that it avoids the responsibility to present solutions for fixing America's broken economy.
I agree. Many of the best conservatives are eyeing 2016. I wonder what S & P's rating will be for the U.S. then.
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I say, concentrate on this issues. F***, after two and a half years, there's plenty of ammunition to use in criticising Obama without going near race and background issues. His record, for example. I think the reason the right obsess over the birth cert stuff - and their next gambit, as Maycocksean rightly says, will be to claim that the birth cert is a forgery, the issue won't go away - is that it's an easy, lazy win for them. It lets them off the hook also, in that it avoids the responsibility to present solutions for fixing America's broken economy.


It would be nice to hear some real solutions to our problems in America.
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It would be nice to hear some real solutions to our problems in America.


other than smoking, eating junk food, dehumanzing gays, and loving Jesus, what else have you got for solutions?
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"Beal was talking about birthers and those that think Obama is a Muslim."


So, now that is the thought I was commenting on?
If that wasn't what you were commenting on then you shouldn't have quoted Beal, because that is what Beal was commenting on.

YOU need to start actually reading the posts you quote and the sources you site. Context context context... you're making yourself look like an illiterate as of late.
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