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Old 04-07-2011, 01:40 AM   #886
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i think replacing a successful, single payer system like Medicare and replacing it with a voucher system, and then cutting the funding of those vouchers, is a great way to continue to cut taxes for the rich. it makes me very happy, as a young person, to pay for people born in the 1950s to have great health care and then not have the same system available when i am their age.
i hear you. i'm glad i'm paying for a filet mignon now and in 60 years (since who knows what the retirement age will get pushed up to by then) i can have a mcdonald's hamburger.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:35 PM   #887
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i hear you. i'm glad i'm paying for a filet mignon now and in 60 years (since who knows what the retirement age will get pushed up to by then) i can have a mcdonald's hamburger.


make your own damn hamburger. sheesh. always expecting others to pay for it.
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27% of communication by members of Congress is taunting, professor concludes - Washington Post

I smirked, but there's something pathetic about that finding. A study of the records going all the way back to the Continental Congresses might well find delegates spent just as much time taunting each other back then, but when virtually everything is immediately tweeted and blogged and spun for the public, I have to imagine that only worsens the dynamic.
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make your own damn hamburger. sheesh. always expecting others to pay for it.
i know! i'm ashamed that i want the younger generation to make me a burger when i'm too old to do it for myself.
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Washington (CNN) - Dogged by a 34 percent approval rating among independents in Florida, a new poll out Monday indicates President Barack Obama would have a tough time beating either Republicans Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee in that crucial campaign state.

According to the new survey from Sachs/Mason Dixon, Obama trails both past and potential presidential 2012 candidates in head-to-head matchups in the Sunshine State, losing to Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, by a 48-43 percent margin and lagging behind Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, by a 49-44 percent spread.

Among all voters, Obama's approval rating in the Sunshine State stands at 43 percent, with 56 percent saying they are unhappy with his performance as commander-in-chief. That's consistent with a Quinnipiac University survey released last week that placed Obama's approval rating at 44 percent in the Sunshine state. The Quinnipiac survey also indicates that just over half of Florida voters don't think the president deserves re-election.

The new Florida poll may save its worst findings for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who loses to the president by a sizable 51-39 margin. That's a worse showing than business mogul Donald Trump, who lags 8 points behind Obama with a 48-40 percent spread.

In even worse news for Palin, the onetime GOP vice presidential nominee places sixth with only 5 percent of support among registered Republicans when it comes to the horserace for the GOP primary in Florida, behind Huckabee at 23 percent, Romney at 18 percent, Trump at 13 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 11 percent, and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty at 8 percent.

The poll surveyed 800 registered Florida voters from April 4-7 and carries a sampling error of 3.5 percentage points. For the Republican primary breakdown, the poll surveyed 400 Republicans and carries a sampling error of 5 percentage points.

The survey comes as the Florida Republican Party is currently in a heated debate with other state parties over when it will hold its presidential primary. The state, per an official calendar adopted by the national party, had been slated to hold its nominating contest in March, behind the traditional first four – Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.

But Florida Republicans bucked that request earlier this year when it leapfrogged those states, saying they will conduct their primary on January 31, 2012, in direct violation of the calendar ratified last year by the Democratic and Republican National Committees, which carved out February for the official start of the nomination fight.

But amid heavy criticism from national Republicans and those of other primary states, Republican Party of Florida chairman Dave Bitner indicated last month he is open to moving the state's primary date back behind the traditional four.

Florida has famously see-sawed between the Democrats and Republicans in recent presidential elections: Obama carried the state by 3 percentage points in 2008 while former President George W. Bush won there by 5 points in 2004. And of course, Bush barely won the state in 2000 after a drawn-out recount.
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There should probably be a separate thread for the budget issue, but I'll lazily stick this here for now.
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A new report released today by SIPRI, a Swedish-based think tank, reveals that U.S. military spending has almost doubled since 2001. The U.S. spent an astounding $698 billion on the military last year, an 81% increase over the last decade.

U.S. spending on the military last year far exceeded any other country. We spent six times more than China—the second largest spender. Overall, the world expended $1.6 trillion on the military, with the United States accounting for the lion’s share. As a percentage of GDP, U.S. military spending has increased from 3.1% in 2001 to 4.8% last year.

The report notes that, “even in the face of efforts to bring down the soaring US budget deficit, military spending continues to receive privileged treatment.” Indeed, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and others on the right are passing legislation increasing defense spending.
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Be wary of the Industrial Military Complex.
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*sigh*

But no, but no! We need to cut funding to Planned Parenthood! Morals are more important than money, and we'll hold the country hostage for it!
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Defense must not be cut, we should spend more.
Would you rather we were 10 per cent short of what we need and be taken over?

Besides most of the money we spend on defense comes from China.
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I'm for increasing military spending if it means soldiers will get the proper equipment they need to do their jobs, and proper care they deserve when they've returned, particularly in the mental health area.
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I'm for increasing military spending if it means soldiers will get the proper equipment they need to do their jobs, and proper care they deserve when they've returned, particularly in the mental health area.


are you kidding me? those brave soldiers didn't fight and get injured only to come home to the bitter, cold embrace of nanny-state socialism.
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Yeah, you're right. Better to kill themselves than burden the system with their PTSD neediness.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:40 PM   #898
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I'm for increasing military spending if it means soldiers will get the proper equipment they need to do their jobs, and proper care they deserve when they've returned, particularly in the mental health area.
I'm former military, and I have no problem with budget cuts if it means better fiscal responsibility. While I was on active duty for only four years, the impression I got was that the Army wasted a lot of money. A LOT of money. While some of the equipment we had was very effective and enhanced soldier safety, many of the expenditures felt like excess. Units could spend millions of dollars (literally) on equipment they rarely, if ever used - simply because they had the money at their disposal. It seemed like there were just too many "morale and welfare" programs as well, to the point of us being pampered with stuff we didn't really want or need.

I feel like it really comes down to tighter financial control - i.e. more responsible spending. There's a lot of fat that can be trimmed without devastating unit readiness or the health and safety of troops.
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I can believe that!
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Naturally, there would/could be waste in the military. But, I'd rather err on the side of waste and excess than that of scrimping and need.


I'm not convinced that the returning wounded are getting all of the care they need. Last I read, there still was an effort to minimize the percentage of disability a soldier has to keep costs down.
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