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Old 11-23-2009, 09:03 AM   #76
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Department of Defense?
Of course not:



They pretend to care about deficit spending, of course they wait till one of theirs is out of the WH to start caring about it, but not when defense is concerned, the money comes from Jesus.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:22 PM   #77
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no -- cut the government! not Defense!

Defense isn't at all a part of the government!
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This could be good news for Obama's 2012 prospects

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Ex-CNN anchor Lou Dobbs is considering running for president in 2012

BY Michael Saul
DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

Former CNN anchor Lou Dobbs has never been elected to any government office, but he said Monday he’s considering a run for the White House in 2012.

During an interview on WTOP radio in Washington, Dobbs fueled rumors he’s seeking a bid for public office, possibly the highest office in the land, when asked if speculation about an Oval Office bid is “crazy talk.”

“What’s so crazy about that?” Dobbs, 64, replied. “Golly!”

So, is it crazy talk or is it real, the radio station persisted.

“Well, I’ll tell you this much -- it’s one of the discussions that we’re having,” he said. “For the first time, I’m actually listening to some people about politics.”

“I don’t think I’ve got the nature for it,” he added. “[But] we’ve got to do something in this country and I think that being in the public arena means you’ve got to be part of the solution.”

Dobbs, a controversial and outspoken critic of the nation’s immigration policy, said he is reaching out to Latino groups in attempt to bridge differences and identify public policy solutions.

Read more: Ex-CNN anchor Lou Dobbs is considering running for president in 2012
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Liberals prefer a lighter skinned Obama, study says

When given a choice between a photo of a lighter-skinned version of Barack Obama versus a darker-skinned version, most voters who consider themselves Democrats last year selected the lighter version.

That's what research set to be published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of the Sciences found after surveying voters before and after the 2008 presidential election.

The survey of nearly 400 voters in Chicago and at Arizona and Florida State universities sought to determine how different people "see the world" and what effect, if any, skin color plays in one's personal or group politics, says Emily Balcetis, one of the researchers. A focal point was Obama's position as "racially ambiguous" or biracial.

"We showed participants several different photos of Barack Obama, and asked them to rate how well each photo represented who he really is," Balcetis says, explaining the research methodology. "Unbeknownst to participants, we altered some of the photos to make the candidate's skin tone lighter, and some to make the candidate's skin tone darker, than it was in the original photograph."

One of the researchers, Eugene Caruso of the University of Chicago, discovered that participants whose partisanship was the same as that of the candidate "consistently rated the lightened photographs as more representative of the candidate than the darkened photographs, whereas participants whose partisanship did not match that of the candidate showed the opposite pattern."

In other words, conservatives tended to see Obama as black, while liberals tended to see him as white. The more people thought lightened photographs reflected Obama, "the more likely they were to report voting for him in the actual election," Balcetis adds, noting that being part of a group that has the same political values motivates people to see their fellow group members positively. (The study, which included men and women, did not "have enough minority participants to see how the issue played out among nonwhites," says Balcetis.)

If any of this sounds vaguely familiar, well, it probably is. Even the researchers acknowledge that American and Western society's association with light skin color as good and dark skin color as bad is nothing new.

Certainly, there is no shortage of examples where dark skin versus light skin has been the subject of books, essays, articles, documentaries and even rap music. Renowned psychologist Kenneth Clark and his wife, Mamie Phipps Clark, explored the issue in the black doll tests during the 1940s. When black children were shown four dolls, identical except for color, the children preferred the white doll over the black ones. In 2005, Kiri Davis conducted a similar test in New York with results similar to the Clarks. Davis created an award-winning video to showcase her work.

Books such as "The Color Complex," Spike Lee's film, "School Daze," and even articles about Michelle Obama's chocolate skin further explore the prickly issue of skin color that lingers in African-American communities.

Other media-driven moments that some claim were designed to perpetuate negative images of dark skin include photographs of a dark and menacing O.J. Simpson the cover of Time magazine during his infamous murder trial in the 1990s. Last year, Hillary Clinton's camp was accused of releasing a television ad featuring darkened images of Obama during the presidential primaries.

"I think we're making real progress toward reducing the amount of overt discrimination and racism, but there are more subtle forms of bias that can still have very meaningful consequences," Balcetis notes.

"Our findings reinforce the point made by previous researchers that discussion should not only concern how people perceive blacks versus whites, but also how perceptions of blacks or biracial people vary within these groups."
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One of the researchers, Eugene Caruso of the University of Chicago, discovered that participants whose partisanship was the same as that of the candidate "consistently rated the lightened photographs as more representative of the candidate than the darkened photographs, whereas participants whose partisanship did not match that of the candidate showed the opposite pattern."

In other words, conservatives tended to see Obama as black, while liberals tended to see him as white.
I find this to be an odd conclusion to draw from these patterns.
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*** No pain, no gain? In a way, last week epitomized President Obama’s 10 months in office. There was lots of seemingly short-term pain -- members of Congress calling for his Treasury secretary to resign, more P.R. snafus over the stimulus, the chattering class criticizing his Asia trip, and his approval rating dropping below 50% for the first time in Gallup’s poll. But there also was long-term gain -- the Senate on Saturday moving one step closer to passing health-care reform and a growing economic consensus, via the New York Times, that the stimulus is working despite all the P.R. headaches it has caused. Indeed, this short-term pain/long-term gain for Team Obama occurred during the presidential campaign. For all the hits they took (Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, “bitter,” the PUMAs, Bill Ayers, Landstuhl, even Joe the Plumber), they were always working toward the prize (270-plus electoral votes). And remember this: If you simply judged the last three months of the 2008 campaign by which campaign "won" the daily news cycle, McCain came out ahead. That’s perhaps the best example of the short-term/long-term.
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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Down to 45% approval rating.

just sayin.
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The only reason those Bush phone photoshops were funny was because Bush is a dimwit and it could be believable that he'd hold a phone upside down for a photo op.

You don't get quite the same way with Obama. There's a lot of things tea-baggers say about Obama, but stupid isn't on the top of their list.

Unless communists are now notorious for holding phones upside down to confuse Amerikuns.


The real photo, without the added bonus of an embarrassingly bad clock 'shopped on the wall.
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The only reason those Bush phone photoshops were funny was because Bush is a dimwit and it could be believable that he'd hold a phone upside down for a photo op.
Actually, no, it really isn't believable at all. And if you (general you) honestly think it is believable, I'd say you're the one with intelligence issues.
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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports�

Down to 45% approval rating.

just sayin.
i also disapprove. so, if this was directed at me, i'm not sure what your point was. maybe you should stick to posting photoshopped images and internet slang. FTW LOLZ!!!!
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i also disapprove. so, if this was directed at me, i'm not sure what your point was. maybe you should stick to posting photoshopped images and internet slang. FTW LOLZ!!!!
Not directed at you and your pic did not post.


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same image that tiger edge posted.
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