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Old 05-28-2010, 05:40 PM   #811
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They do! I like the one of them full-on kissing. How very romantic...not often you see that between leaders. I wonder if Bush could "see into his soul", too?

That could lead to some very disturbing slash writing. I'm not gonna go there, though *Shudders*.

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Old 05-28-2010, 06:09 PM   #812
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I don't know the point of those pictures. Obama prays a lot? Breathes in deeply? Catches quick cat naps?
Eh, I wish I hadn't posted that string of pics, last week. Sorry folks.
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Eh, I wish I hadn't posted that string of pics, last week. Sorry folks.
Safe to say you're forgiven!
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I don't know the point of those pictures. Obama prays a lot? Breathes in deeply? Catches quick cat naps?


looks uppity. that's what drives the right wing folks nuts.

uppity.
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No problem, Bluer White .

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looks uppity. that's what drives the right wing folks nuts.

uppity.
He looks a bit sick and undernourished in one or too of them. He should give up the smokes and try and take things a bit easier in general. Easier said than done for someone in his position, granted.
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Eh, I wish I hadn't posted that string of pics, last week. Sorry folks.
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Maher: Obama Not Acting Like A "Real Black" President

HBO's Bill Maher: "I thought when we elected a black president, we were going to get a black president. You know, this [BP oil spill] is where I want a real black president. I want him in a meeting with the BP CEOs, you know, where he lifts up his shirt where you can see the gun in his pants. That's -- (in black man voice) 'we've got a motherfu**ing problem here?' Shoot somebody in the foot."

1. this is outrageous!!!!,
can you imagine what the main stream media would be doing if, Palin or Rush, said this!!!!!

2. he's a comedian, they say these things, to get a rise

3. Maher, next time let Chris Rock do Chris Rock
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were you drunk when you posted that?
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He picked the Lakers so for that. But what does he know about basketball anyway? Poser. Stick to fixing the country. Rondo could kick his butt all over the court, maybe even Nate Robinson Maybe even Scal... I kid, I kid..lest anyone get all upset over it. But still. maybe even Scal. The only white guy on the team and he never plays, Obama should look into that...

And it's no newsflash that Maher is an ass Arrogant know it all comes to mind, and he's trying to be all filled with satire and hilarity. Hilarious.
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World News' Political Insights: President Obama's Change Looking Like More of the Same

President Battles Perceptions on Gulf Oil Spill, Sestak Job Offer

ANALYSIS
By RICK KLEIN

WASHINGTON, May 30, 2010—

For a president who promised change, the danger now is more of the same.

The environmental calamity stemming from the BP oil spill is challenging President Obama's leadership in a fundamental way, threatening to undermine the sense of competence the president has sought to project.

Meanwhile, the fallout from the White House's purported job offer to Rep. Joe Sestak, D-Pa., to keep him out of a Senate race is gnawing at Obama from another direction, depicting him as a business-as-usual politician who was slow to own up to an uncomfortable truth.

Oil Stains

The chorus of critics of the president's handling of the Gulf Coast crisis is only growing, with leading voices on the left leading the way -- and, increasingly, invoking comparisons to President Bush's handling of Hurricane Katrina.

This is more than anger at Obama for not acting more quickly, or with more emotional power. It reflects a growing concern among the president's allies that a key attribute that fueled his political rise is leaking along with the oil spilling into the ocean.

On the BP disaster, the president risks looking like part of the problem -- the head of an unfeeling and red-tape-wrapped federal government that has a cozy relationship with a tarnished oil company -- instead of the leader who promised "never again" to these same residents of the Gulf.

His challenge will be to show both emotion and firm leadership in the weeks and months ahead, even with no end in sight to the leak and a clean-up that will last decades. It won't be enough to be seen as effectively marshaling the resources of the federal government, though that would be a start.

With fingers pointing in every direction, the president will need to show that he's not just in charge but also on the side of the people of the Gulf. That's no easy task, given the growing frustrations of local officials in the region, and the hardening political storyline of a president who seemed not to grasp the urgency of the moment.

Toss in a president whose resting heart-rate is just different than your usual human being -- we're talking about "no-drama Obama" here -- and the political path is messy indeed.

Business Unusual?

On its face, the Obama White House's efforts to coax Sestak out of the Democratic primary against Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., looks like the kind of nudge that happens all the time in politics, at all levels of government.

But the problem for the Obama White House is that the president wasn't supposed to be that kind of politician. He offered himself up as an antidote to the deal-cutting, backroom culture of Washington under his predecessors of both parties.

Whether or not anything illegal took place -- and most legal experts agree that it's a stretch to argue laws were broken, if the facts were as the White House presented them last week -- the political fallout could be substantial.

Republicans are clamoring for independent investigations, and no internal White House reports will quiet those cries. Already, the incident has been political grist.

"What's amazing is that this administration wants to talk about not doing business as usual, and then this is clearly business as usual," Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said today on "Fox News Sunday."

"The question is, has this been transparent? No. Has there been stalling? Yes. Is there a possibility that what we're being told now is not true because it's not so plausible? Yes. Should there be independent investigation so we can move on? Yes."

Key in this story will be the White House response. This has lingered far longer than the president's allies have wanted -- in part because answers have been slow in coming from the administration thus far.
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1. what, exactly, is Obama supposed to do about the oil? i agree that he probably hesitated too long to swoop down there and leap on a table and wave a sword, but from an actual practical standpoint, there's little the government can do. this isn't like the death of 1,000 american citizens from a flood or the stranding of thousands in the Superdome who were unable to be evacuated from a city and proclomations of "heckuva job" from Trent Lott's vacation home. the only people with the technology to actually deal with this are the oil companies themselves, and all the government can do is regulate the oil companies, and since regulation = socialism, Dick Cheney effectively neutered the government back in 2001 when he appointed Ken Lay head of his energy commission and privatized most of the federal government. yes, this is ultimately Bush's fault.

2. the Sestak thing is the unseemly side of politics, but for god's sake, this has happened since George Washington. just how do you think someone becomes the ambassador to Barbados?
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1. what, exactly, is Obama supposed to do about the oil? i agree that he probably hesitated too long to swoop down there and leap on a table and wave a sword, but from an actual practical standpoint, there's little the government can do. this isn't like the death of 1,000 american citizens from a flood or the stranding of thousands in the Superdome who were unable to be evacuated from a city and proclomations of "heckuva job" from Trent Lott's vacation home. the only people with the technology to actually deal with this are the oil companies themselves, and all the government can do is regulate the oil companies, and since regulation = socialism, Dick Cheney effectively neutered the government back in 2001 when he appointed Ken Lay head of his energy commission and privatized most of the federal government. yes, this is ultimately Bush's fault.

2. the Sestak thing is the unseemly side of politics, but for god's sake, this has happened since George Washington. just how do you think someone becomes the ambassador to Barbados?
The Republicans really don't have a leg to stand on with either of these situations, so finger-pointing feels incredibly hypocritical here.

At the same time, given that the government was aware of the massive oil slick heading for the Gulf Coast region almost immediately, I do think the President could have been more proactive about marshaling forces on the ground in an effort to deal with the environmental crisis. While the oil rig may not have fallen under the direct jurisdiction of the federal government (any more than the weather in New Orleans does), federal response to the disaster certainly does. Human life may not be lost as a result of these events, but the damage ecologically and economically will be far-reaching.

As far as Shestak is concerned, I can't really get all that worked up about it, for the same reasons Irvine mentioned. However, if we're going to say that cronyism is merely "politics as usual" and that it's happened since the days of Washington, both parties should then be allowed the freedom to engage in it, or risk a double standard.
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For a president who promised change, the danger now is more of the same.
i will admit he's far from perfect, but some of this isn't exactly his fault. yes, as irvine said he did hesitate too long before handling the oil spill, yes.

the problem is, and this goes for both sides, what one party suggests, the other will do what they can to prevent it from happening. look at the healthcare bill. what was originally proposed versus what finally passed is very different. again, i'm not pointing fingers at either party, honestly. but with both parties being so incredibly divided on issues, it makes it incredibly hard for real change to happen.
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1. what, exactly, is Obama supposed to do about the oil? i agree that he probably hesitated too long to swoop down there and leap on a table and wave a sword, but from an actual practical standpoint, there's little the government can do. this isn't like the death of 1,000 american citizens from a flood or the stranding of thousands in the Superdome who were unable to be evacuated from a city and proclomations of "heckuva job" from Trent Lott's vacation home. the only people with the technology to actually deal with this are the oil companies themselves, and all the government can do is regulate the oil companies, and since regulation = socialism, Dick Cheney effectively neutered the government back in 2001 when he appointed Ken Lay head of his energy commission and privatized most of the federal government. yes, this is ultimately Bush's fault.

2. the Sestak thing is the unseemly side of politics, but for god's sake, this has happened since George Washington. just how do you think someone becomes the ambassador to Barbados?
Exactly!

And the Coast Guard was on site just hours after the rig blew up, that was about all the government could do immediately.

Its not like Obama could have ordered them to leave the boats, put on safety goggles, swim down and put their thumbs on the hole until someone shows up with concrete.

The reality is much more complicated, as the failure of many very sophisticated methods tried thus far has demonstrated.

I understand you can control oil spills as they progress about as much as you can control the weather in New Orleans, but the difference was the government actually had a set of relief guidelines to follow and a set of requests from Nagin and Blanco of LA on the table and ignored both while people died. FEMA was in place to specifically deal with this stuff as it happens.

Oil spills, there are thousands of different regulatory bodies and agencies in the 1st place, and there will surely be numerous different investigations into what happened after the fact. As for during, we make it up as we go.

Obama's Katrina that suggestion is absurd, even if he has not been absolutely perfect in dealing with it.

As for Sestak, a big yawn and nothing more from me. Nothing illegal was done, its typical deal making. The party of Blackwater and K Street and Scooter Libby and Jack Abramoff and Tom Delay and Bob Ney and Duke Cunningham really does not have much of a leg to stand on here.

I am not saying I like the Sestak type things in politics, its just, lets not kid ourselves into confusing smoke filled back room Rahm Emmanuel deal making into real corruption. At least not until Obama gets his equivalent of Libby indicted.
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