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Old 11-18-2009, 11:23 PM   #46
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Quit trolling, diamond.
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Diamond, you're a gelding???
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:35 PM   #48
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Diamond, you're a gelding???
To keep things fair in FYM, why yes..

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My point about ACORN and President Obama's falling poll numbers is; although he won last year handedly, 2012 may -- depending on the GOP candidate -- be much closer in which ACORN'S uh... creative voter registration methods in Democratic strongholds may come in quite handy on election night.

That and a cheap laugh.
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If only the GOP had kept the birth certificate thing under wraps till 2012! Then they'd have him!
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Here is a little article for those that loved to point out George W. Bush's opinion poll numbers while he was in office.


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Obama Job Approval Down to 49%

President becomes fourth fastest to slip below the majority approval level


by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Daily tracking results show 49% of Americans approving of the job Barack Obama is doing as president, putting him below the majority approval level for the first time in his presidency.

Although the current decline below 50% has symbolic significance, most of the recent decline in support for Obama occurred in July and August. He began July at 60% approval. The ongoing, contentious debate over national healthcare reform has likely served as a drag on his public support, as have continuing economic problems. Americans are also concerned about the Obama administration's reliance on government spending to solve the nation's problems and the growing federal budget deficit. Since September, Obama's approval rating had been holding in the low 50s and, although it has reached 50% numerous times, it had never dropped below 50% until now.

Of the post-World War II presidents, Obama now is the fourth fastest to drop below the majority approval level, doing so in his 10th month on the job. Gerald Ford dropped below 50% approval during his third month in office, and Bill Clinton did so in his fourth month. Ronald Reagan, like Obama, also dropped below 50% in his 10th month in office, though Reagan's drop occurred a few days sooner in that month (Nov. 13-16, 1981) than did Obama's (Nov. 17-19, 2009).
http://www.gallup.com/poll/122627/Ob...l-Down-49.aspx

So Obama has dropped below 50% for the first time in just his 10th month in office. W did not drop below 50% until the start of his 4th year in office.
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Are there any examples in history of economies that have taken such huge hits and recovered within a year? No one can argue that the hit taken to the economy was Obama's fault, no one, if they try they are completely ignorant. So if we can't blame the hit on Obama the only thing we can do is blame the recovery or lack of recovery on Obama, so I ask, are there any examples?
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so Obama's approval rating is ahead of Clinton and about on par with Regan, and he's facing the worst economic climate since the 1930s, enormous deficits handed to him by the previous administration, along with two failed wars.

2012 should be a breeze for him.
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2012 should be a breeze for him.
You simply amaze me.

Every president who has won re-election has done so with a larger popular vote and a larger electoral vote than their initial election, at least dating back to Eisenhower. Do you believe Obama's picked up votes? I can't imagine a lot of McCain voters saying "What was I thinking?! I'm voting for Obama next time!", whereas I can imagine there being a hell of a lot of people thinking "This isn't what I wanted. I'm not making that mistake again."

Seems to me Obama should be a little worried. He's got three years to right the ship- or one year if he hopes to get any of what he promised wants done legislatively. People will not buy the old, boring Bush excuse in 2012.
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It's rather worrying that apparently people nowadays expect that everything will be done within the first year. It's not like he is going about it the Bush way, "Oh, there's some trees that need to come down."

In three years time sensible voters should base their choice on the full four years.
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You simply amaze me.

Every president who has won re-election has done so with a larger popular vote and a larger electoral vote than their initial election, at least dating back to Eisenhower. Do you believe Obama's picked up votes? I can't imagine a lot of McCain voters saying "What was I thinking?! I'm voting for Obama next time!", whereas I can imagine there being a hell of a lot of people thinking "This isn't what I wanted. I'm not making that mistake again."

Seems to me Obama should be a little worried. He's got three years to right the ship- or one year if he hopes to get any of what he promised wants done legislatively. People will not buy the old, boring Bush excuse in 2012.


relax. and work on your sense of irony.
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Your not being able to understand context, humor, or irony amazes us all.
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In three years time sensible voters should base their choice on the full four years.
And w each passing day, it's becoming more sensible to not have him around for 8 years.

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I remember the first Bush had an approval rating of above 80 not long before the election, yet he lost. Obama certainly has time.

Obama's major problem is that he seems to be strongly backing some losing horses. Health Care Reform is killing his approval. His delays on Afghanistan hurt. Also, he has not come out and fought for a balanced budget (like Clinton did - which saved his presidency).

Most people want to cut the deficit in a real, demonstrable way. If he really stepped up us rhetoric on that (provided there was also a real plan) - then I think opinions about him would change (at least the moderates). If the economy is in full recovery and the Afghanistan war seems to be going better by 2012 - he will probably win. If the economy is still in the toilet - he has zero chance no matter what else he accomplishes.
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If the economy is still in the toilet - he has zero chance no matter what else he accomplishes.


in theory i agree, but all Obama has to do is beat the Republican nominee.

all GWB had to do was beat John Kerry.
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