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Old 02-04-2010, 02:41 AM   #436
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Impeachment talk is ridiculous


Obama won't be, can't be impeached

until the GOP has the majority in the House of Representatives
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:46 AM   #437
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Impeachment talk is ridiculous


Obama won't be, can't be impeached

until the GOP has the majority in the House of Representatives
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I thought all Democrat presidents were impeached on sight. Isn't it in the consitittuttion or somethink?
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Election -> Inauguration -> Impeachment. Just a matter of time.
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:38 PM   #440
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YouTube - pronunciation problem

But he can pronounce Tal-e-bon.
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But he can pronounce Tal-e-bon.
Just like the people who hated on Obama for trying marijuana in his teens while ignoring Bush's problems with drugs and alcohol well into his adult life, you find no problems at all with the mistake Obama made once as opposed to the blunders Bush had with, you know, basic English? He mispronounced a word, but it was the correct word. Bush would mispronounce words, use the wrong word, make words up.

No need to reconcile your hypocrisy. Ever. Because this guy's a Democrat.
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The winter of America's discontent
Dissatisfaction with both political parties runs deep.

Tim Rutten February 5, 2010

It has been more than four decades since the Congress of the United States has been able to summon the will to pass a major piece of social legislation. Not since 1965, when Medicare and the Voting Rights Act both overcame decades of opposition to become law, has Congress proved itself up to the task.

Significant healthcare reform is all but dead for this session, and the chances of substantively addressing the regulatory breakdown that allowed Wall Street's irresponsible speculation to precipitate the worst global financial crisis since the Depression seem to recede with each passing day. So too the prospects for passage of further stimulus measures to remedy the crisis of unemployment and underemployment that continues to ravage the lives of families in states from Michigan to California.

In the face of these daunting issues, what was it that preoccupied the Senate on the eve of its long weekend recess? The legislative drama du jour is the standoff between the White House and Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), who has put a personal hold on more than 70 executive branch appointments until the Obama administration agrees to fund a couple of pork-barrel projects he has earmarked for his state. One involves tens of millions of dollars for an FBI laboratory focusing on improvised explosives -- something the bureau doesn't think it needs. The other involves contract specifications for an aerial tanker that Northrop Grumman and Airbus would manufacture in Alabama, if they win the deal. (Boeing also is competing for the plane, which it would build in Topeka, Kan., and Seattle.)

Unless the administration agrees to give Shelby what he wants, he intends to invoke an archaic senatorial privilege that allows him to prevent the chamber from considering any of the administration's nominees to executive branch vacancies, no matter how crucial. Without the 60 votes to force cloture -- another archaic convention -- there's nothing the Democrats or the White House can do.

Outside the Senate, Shelby's conduct would be called extortion; inside the chamber, it's a "parliamentary tactic."

It's also the sort of shabby situation that brings into sharp focus both the sources of congressional dysfunction and the popular discontent on both the left and right with the congressional parties. Earmarks and pork are anathema to a majority of conservatives and independents; the Senate's outdated, made-for-obstruction rules and susceptibility to special interests are a source of increasing frustration to liberals and some independents. Yet, here we have one senator from one Southern state obstructing with impunity an entire nation's business -- purely for his narrow constituency's financial interests.

You don't have to attend a "tea party" convention to see the corrosive effect this sort of otherworldly political navel-gazing has on American attitudes toward the institutions of national government and the parties vying to control them. Evidence of the damage is scattered throughout the recent polls:

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey, for example, found that although 52% of the nation's voters retain a favorable view of President Obama, only 38% have a similar appraisal of the Democratic Party. The Republicans fare even worse; just 30%, fewer than

1 in 3 voters, view the GOP favorably.

A recent CBS News poll found that nearly half of all Republicans, 45%, disapprove of their party's congressional delegation.

A national Washington Post/ABC News poll found that just 24% of Americans, fewer than 1 in 4, trust congressional Republicans, like Shelby, "to make the right decisions for the country's future." (Wonder why?) The House and Senate Democrats didn't fare all that better, and are trusted by just 32%. Forty-seven percent of those polled -- still less than half -- have confidence in Obama's ability to make the right decisions.

When people's mistrust of their elected officials and the parties reaches these levels, there is little for political leaders to do but take counsel from their own anger and anxieties -- and, these days, the popular mood fairly seethes with both those things. Discontent with the present and apprehension about the future have become the background noise of our politics, yet both sides of the congressional aisle seem deaf to the din.

In one of his magisterial explorations of German politics between the wars, the historian Ian Kershaw mused that "there are times -- they mark the danger point for a political system -- when politicians can no longer communicate, when they stop understanding the language of the people they are supposed to be representing."

It would be reckless not to insist that this country and its politics remain, in crucial ways, far distant from Weimar. It would be rash, though, to pretend that the distance remains as great as it once was.
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If states like Alabama can't vote out these clowns, then term limits should eventually remove them.

*wishful thinking*
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things are bad. and it will be a long time before they are again what they once were. but they could have been a whole lot worse.
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it's obama's fault.
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things are bad. and it will be a long time before they are again what they once were. but they could have been a whole lot worse.
Well, the Democrats should be careful with such things: If you assume responsibility for the good things, whether it's truly thanks to you or not, then you will also have to take the blame for things that go bad. It could backfire.

Did they just publish this graph, or did they also provide an explanation which policies since Obama taking office can be attributed to that development?
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Did they just publish this graph, or did they also provide an explanation which policies since Obama taking office can be attributed to that development?

both.

i think the large point is that things are slowly getting better, and they are trying to tie that to the president. because that's good news for them.

of course, there's not all that much the president can actually do about unemployment.

this is spin, to a degree, but there are true facts there. and it's nice to see my side show a little gumption.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:13 PM   #450
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Very clever cover I must admit. But as for the president's New New Deal," well, I hope he fails.
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