MrsSpringsteen
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OBAMA PLAYS RACE CARD:
RALLIES NEGROES, CHOLOS FOR '10 UPSET (Drudge Headline - with very slight modification)
link to actual article below:
Obama seeks to 'reconnect...young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women' for 2010 - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
RALLIES NEGROES, CHOLOS FOR '10 UPSET (Drudge Headline - with very slight modification)
link to actual article below:
Obama seeks to 'reconnect...young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women' for 2010 - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
Irvine511
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^ i saw that, it was awesome.
and shockingly irresponsible.
and shockingly irresponsible.
deep
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I have often thought about starting a thread about the Drudge Headlines
it is amazing how he completely rewrites or reinvents them to suit his agenda
and sometimes the article is 180 degrees different than how his headlines state it.
and even more disturbing, these (false) Drudge headlines often times become sound-bite talking points for responsible news outlets.
it is amazing how he completely rewrites or reinvents them to suit his agenda
and sometimes the article is 180 degrees different than how his headlines state it.
and even more disturbing, these (false) Drudge headlines often times become sound-bite talking points for responsible news outlets.
Irvine511
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but there's no VRWC.
deep
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a conspiracy suggests it's planned and organized.
that is too much credit.
that is too much credit.
AEON
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That's pretty awful.
deep
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more Drudge Headlines
BANK BILL DOWN
AND REID VOTES 'NO' AGAIN
link to article.
Financial overhaul falls short in procedural vote
BANK BILL DOWN
AND REID VOTES 'NO' AGAIN
link to article.
Financial overhaul falls short in procedural vote
MrsSpringsteen
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Huffington Post
Conservative firebrands were out in force in Tyler, Texas over the weekend, speaking at a Glenn Beck-headlined "Taking Back America" rally.
"I believe that Barack Obama is God's punishment on us today, but in 2012, we are going to make Obama a one-term president," declared Texas state Rep. Leo Berman (R-Tyler) according to the Tyler Morning Telegraph.
Berman's extreme words were accompanied by other comments from conservative figures, including Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.), who, in the height of the health care debate last month said that "demons" had invaded Washington and were causing Democrats to mislead voters about the merits of the bill.
Glenn Beck, speaking at the event, said: "Do you believe this is God's land? Do you believe our constitution was divinely inspired? Why do you believe those things?" Beck asked. "If God is with us, who can possibly stand against us? The answer is no one."
Texas Gov. Rick Perry also made an appearance and called the Tea Party an "army" that was gathering to "take their country back and send a message to this administration, to this Congress," an army that he said he was "proud to be in."
Conservative firebrands were out in force in Tyler, Texas over the weekend, speaking at a Glenn Beck-headlined "Taking Back America" rally.
"I believe that Barack Obama is God's punishment on us today, but in 2012, we are going to make Obama a one-term president," declared Texas state Rep. Leo Berman (R-Tyler) according to the Tyler Morning Telegraph.
Berman's extreme words were accompanied by other comments from conservative figures, including Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.), who, in the height of the health care debate last month said that "demons" had invaded Washington and were causing Democrats to mislead voters about the merits of the bill.
Glenn Beck, speaking at the event, said: "Do you believe this is God's land? Do you believe our constitution was divinely inspired? Why do you believe those things?" Beck asked. "If God is with us, who can possibly stand against us? The answer is no one."
Texas Gov. Rick Perry also made an appearance and called the Tea Party an "army" that was gathering to "take their country back and send a message to this administration, to this Congress," an army that he said he was "proud to be in."
BVS
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Can we just give Texas to Mexico and be done with it?
Edit: Also, what does divinely inspired mean? I've never heard the constitution called that. But not surprising considering the amount of GOD talk there is now in this country, or from the GOP/TeaParty.
It's getting to the point where I will probably have to keep my mouth shut or just flat out lie about being a "God Fearing" individual. At least I went through the whole catholic process so I still remember enough crap to bullshit if needed.
And i love all this talk about army, and taking the country back. it is so much calling to arms and driving the fucking wackos even more wack.
Can you imagine the crazy that will come out in 2011 - 2012????
Edit: Also, what does divinely inspired mean? I've never heard the constitution called that. But not surprising considering the amount of GOD talk there is now in this country, or from the GOP/TeaParty.
It's getting to the point where I will probably have to keep my mouth shut or just flat out lie about being a "God Fearing" individual. At least I went through the whole catholic process so I still remember enough crap to bullshit if needed.
And i love all this talk about army, and taking the country back. it is so much calling to arms and driving the fucking wackos even more wack.
Can you imagine the crazy that will come out in 2011 - 2012????
deep
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I am getting nervous about 2012
I may have waited too long to stock up on my ammo.
Most of the shops I go to are sold out, or they are rationing it at unreasonable, unconstitutional amounts.
I may have waited too long to stock up on my ammo.
Most of the shops I go to are sold out, or they are rationing it at unreasonable, unconstitutional amounts.
I've had thoughts about this as well. I just can't see the country being that crazy by 2012 where i feel like i need to protect myself with a firearm....
but then i keep reading the crap spewed forth by the talking heads and leaders at these Tea Parties and I wonder if it'll turn into violence at some point. Walking out of voting areas and people getting angry over how they voted...etc
or it'll just be all talk and hot air
but then i keep reading the crap spewed forth by the talking heads and leaders at these Tea Parties and I wonder if it'll turn into violence at some point. Walking out of voting areas and people getting angry over how they voted...etc
or it'll just be all talk and hot air
HBK-79
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Why do you guys think all the Tea Party hate speech will lead to violence?
I don't see how all this anti-Dem talk will inspire people to start shooting sprees.
I mean- Americans can't be THAT nuts.
I don't see how all this anti-Dem talk will inspire people to start shooting sprees.
I mean- Americans can't be THAT nuts.
Irvine511
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deep
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All Presidents are at risk.
I think the level of dislike for W was strong enough to lead to violence, too.
I think the level of dislike for W was strong enough to lead to violence, too.
i don't think bush was every legitimately in trouble, though. any lefty who would've wanted to kill him knew cheney would be put in power which would've been 10,000 times worse. now though, who knows. though i don't see the point in killing a president after the fact (or ever, but i digress). it's all over and done with.
though people are nuts, so who knows.
though people are nuts, so who knows.
MrsSpringsteen
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politico.com
April 28, 2010
RNC: Obama playing on 'class warfare and race'
The Republican National Committee Tuesday night accused President Obama of making "an appeal based on class warfare and race" after Obama outlined his party's midterm strategy of returning people who voted for the first time in 2008 to the polls in November.
Obama, in a video released this week, spoke in the demographic terms more commonly -- though very commonly -- used by political consultants, saying Democrats must appeal to "young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008 [to] stand together once again."
The Wall Street Journal reports Wednesday on another Democratic strategy to fire up the base, a planned speech by DNC Chairman Tim Kaine that will reportedly allege that Republicans aim to suppress minority votes, a frequent Democratic charge that is inevitably mirrored by GOP claims of vote fraud.
"Only days after our post-racial president made an appeal based on class warfare and race, Gov. Kaine is doing the same thing," said RNC spokesman Doug Heye in an email Tuesday. "It tells you how bad things are for them. Desperate times call for desperate measures, only now it's on an advanced timetable."
In an email blasted to reporters Wednesday morning, National Republican Campaign Committee spokesman Ken Spain charged DNC Chairman Tim Kaine with playing "the race card from the bottom of the deck."
April 28, 2010
RNC: Obama playing on 'class warfare and race'
The Republican National Committee Tuesday night accused President Obama of making "an appeal based on class warfare and race" after Obama outlined his party's midterm strategy of returning people who voted for the first time in 2008 to the polls in November.
Obama, in a video released this week, spoke in the demographic terms more commonly -- though very commonly -- used by political consultants, saying Democrats must appeal to "young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008 [to] stand together once again."
The Wall Street Journal reports Wednesday on another Democratic strategy to fire up the base, a planned speech by DNC Chairman Tim Kaine that will reportedly allege that Republicans aim to suppress minority votes, a frequent Democratic charge that is inevitably mirrored by GOP claims of vote fraud.
"Only days after our post-racial president made an appeal based on class warfare and race, Gov. Kaine is doing the same thing," said RNC spokesman Doug Heye in an email Tuesday. "It tells you how bad things are for them. Desperate times call for desperate measures, only now it's on an advanced timetable."
In an email blasted to reporters Wednesday morning, National Republican Campaign Committee spokesman Ken Spain charged DNC Chairman Tim Kaine with playing "the race card from the bottom of the deck."
BVS
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How is it not obvious to everyone what he meant...
Stupid people baffle me.
Stupid people baffle me.
Irvine511
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deep
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he could have a valid point (these guys are race card experts)
the race card should be played from the top of the deck.
Bottom dealers
corianderstem
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I saw that. Maybe it's just my liberal leanings, but I had to wonder if every politician under fire jumps to 'ZOMG POISONED!!!!' instead of 'oh dear, I do believe I have a touch of food poisoning."
BVS
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Yeah, I have a hard time believing that the President's doctors were unable to determine if he had been poisoned.
MrsSpringsteen
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Interesting..
mediaite.com
Do you ever wonder why it’s always that one conservative aunt that forwards you those chain emails about Barack Obama’s secret plot to turn America into a socialist utopia? Salon’s perusal of internet rumors in the last decade shows that conservatives are both more likely to spread false rumors about liberals via fowarded emails that liberals are about their opponents.
Salon’s J.L. Bell has compiled forwarded emails from the internet rumor debunking site Snopes.com discussing both Barack Obama and George W. Bush. While the Snopes team has, in the past, compiled the hottest internet rumors and found that a large chunk of post-2008 rumormongering centered around the current president, the comparison between Obama and Bush rumors adds a new layer of complexity to the discussion. Bell found that, not only were there more email rumors floating in cyberspace about Obama than Bush, those about the latter tended to be more accurate than those of the former:
After eight years in the White House (with Snopes.com around all that time), George W. Bush has been the subject of 47 internet rumors. After less than two years in office, Barack Obama has been the subject of 87, or nearly twice as many.
Even more telling is the relative accuracy of those stories. For Bush, 20 rumors, or 43%, are true. Only 17, or 36%, are false. The remainder are of mixed veracity (4), undetermined (4), or unclassifiable (2).
In contrast, for Obama only 8 of the 87 rumors, or 9%, are true, and a whopping 59, or 68%, are whoppers. There are 17 of mixed veracity and 3 undetermined.
There are many possible reasons for Obama being at the center of a significantly larger amount of false rumors than Bush, not the least of which is a palpable cultural difference between the way the left and the right employ the internet to propagate their ideas. Compare, for example, the first two major political campaigns waged online by either side: those of Howard Dean and Ron Paul. While the former focused mostly on fundraising and rallying the grassroots with bullet-pointed policy initiatives, the Paul campaign’s centerpiece was a blimp and a series of wacky YouTube videos. Granted, this is in part due to the fact that YouTube was not around during the 2004 campaign, which leads to another imporant point: YouTube was launched in 2005, five years into the Bush administration.
Unfortunately, while Bell does bring into the national conversation an important issue and makes a number of great observations, he lets his bias get the better of him and jumps the gun at his conclusion:
This evidence accumulated over ten years shows a shameful but undeniable fact of American politics: Our right wing now contains a lot more liars, and a lot more folks who spread lies out of gullibility or wishfulness, than our left wing. Don't know about that ~me
Suggesting that a comparison of the number of chain emails from both sides that ignores the fact that people who are more likely to forward political emails happen to be on the right could lead to the “undeniable fact” that everyone right of center is a liar is, at the very least, unfair and premature, and could discredit his entire analysis to many readers, even some on the left. That doesn’t mean the anthropological angle of this story– why do conservatives send more political email forwards than their liberal counterparts?– isn’t worth revisiting by both the media and political analysts looking to maximize the usefulness of the internet in gaining votes for the midterm elections.
mediaite.com
Do you ever wonder why it’s always that one conservative aunt that forwards you those chain emails about Barack Obama’s secret plot to turn America into a socialist utopia? Salon’s perusal of internet rumors in the last decade shows that conservatives are both more likely to spread false rumors about liberals via fowarded emails that liberals are about their opponents.
Salon’s J.L. Bell has compiled forwarded emails from the internet rumor debunking site Snopes.com discussing both Barack Obama and George W. Bush. While the Snopes team has, in the past, compiled the hottest internet rumors and found that a large chunk of post-2008 rumormongering centered around the current president, the comparison between Obama and Bush rumors adds a new layer of complexity to the discussion. Bell found that, not only were there more email rumors floating in cyberspace about Obama than Bush, those about the latter tended to be more accurate than those of the former:
After eight years in the White House (with Snopes.com around all that time), George W. Bush has been the subject of 47 internet rumors. After less than two years in office, Barack Obama has been the subject of 87, or nearly twice as many.
Even more telling is the relative accuracy of those stories. For Bush, 20 rumors, or 43%, are true. Only 17, or 36%, are false. The remainder are of mixed veracity (4), undetermined (4), or unclassifiable (2).
In contrast, for Obama only 8 of the 87 rumors, or 9%, are true, and a whopping 59, or 68%, are whoppers. There are 17 of mixed veracity and 3 undetermined.
There are many possible reasons for Obama being at the center of a significantly larger amount of false rumors than Bush, not the least of which is a palpable cultural difference between the way the left and the right employ the internet to propagate their ideas. Compare, for example, the first two major political campaigns waged online by either side: those of Howard Dean and Ron Paul. While the former focused mostly on fundraising and rallying the grassroots with bullet-pointed policy initiatives, the Paul campaign’s centerpiece was a blimp and a series of wacky YouTube videos. Granted, this is in part due to the fact that YouTube was not around during the 2004 campaign, which leads to another imporant point: YouTube was launched in 2005, five years into the Bush administration.
Unfortunately, while Bell does bring into the national conversation an important issue and makes a number of great observations, he lets his bias get the better of him and jumps the gun at his conclusion:
This evidence accumulated over ten years shows a shameful but undeniable fact of American politics: Our right wing now contains a lot more liars, and a lot more folks who spread lies out of gullibility or wishfulness, than our left wing. Don't know about that ~me
Suggesting that a comparison of the number of chain emails from both sides that ignores the fact that people who are more likely to forward political emails happen to be on the right could lead to the “undeniable fact” that everyone right of center is a liar is, at the very least, unfair and premature, and could discredit his entire analysis to many readers, even some on the left. That doesn’t mean the anthropological angle of this story– why do conservatives send more political email forwards than their liberal counterparts?– isn’t worth revisiting by both the media and political analysts looking to maximize the usefulness of the internet in gaining votes for the midterm elections.
HBK-79
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Hey everyone. At my workplace, one of my co-workers is African-American and a rabid Obama supporter. And another one of my co-workers is a retired war veteran who backed McCain all the way in 2008. Recently, the latter said out loud that he hopes “Obama gets assassinated”, which angered the former, who whispered to me: “Obama will win again- especially if the [voter] turnout is good”.
Well, a lot of people have mentioned the low voter turnout in 2000 and 2004, when Bush won. Indeed, blacks, Latinos, and young people (demographics who usually NEVER bother to vote) came out in droves to go to the polls in 2008, when Obama won.
County-by-county, America seems to be one ‘red state’. But the changes in percentage points in the nation’s urban areas swung into Obama’s favor two years ago.
So would a large voter turnout (particularly among the aforementioned voting groups) help Obama again in 2012? Why or why not?[FONT="]
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Well, a lot of people have mentioned the low voter turnout in 2000 and 2004, when Bush won. Indeed, blacks, Latinos, and young people (demographics who usually NEVER bother to vote) came out in droves to go to the polls in 2008, when Obama won.
County-by-county, America seems to be one ‘red state’. But the changes in percentage points in the nation’s urban areas swung into Obama’s favor two years ago.
So would a large voter turnout (particularly among the aforementioned voting groups) help Obama again in 2012? Why or why not?[FONT="]
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corianderstem
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What a charming coworker you have. Next time he says something like that, you should say "I hope you like Biden then, because that's who'll be president if Obama is killed. YOU SHITHEAD."
(Last two words optional.)
(Last two words optional.)
Irvine511
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yes.
the most reliable voters are old white people. they tend to vote Republican while bleeding the state dry with their Medicaid and their social security.
when turnout goes up, it means that voting groups who normally don't vote -- usually blacks and Latinos and young people of all colors -- are voting, and these voters tend to be much more
I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because I was too skeptical about his "change" campaign. When something seems too good to be true, it usually isn't.
But I have some friends who did and were really enthusiastic about him and believed that he would bring great change to America.
Now here it is, about 16 months since he's been in office and the job market still sucks. Yes, a lot of jobs were created last month, but not enough. Many of my friends who voted for Obama, are now regretting it and that is mainly because of the job situation. They believe he should've tackled the employment crisis first and worry about health care second. This I agree with.
What does everyone else think? Does anyone know people who voted for Obama and now sorry that they did? Know someone who wishes he tackled the job problem rather than health care first?
But I have some friends who did and were really enthusiastic about him and believed that he would bring great change to America.
Now here it is, about 16 months since he's been in office and the job market still sucks. Yes, a lot of jobs were created last month, but not enough. Many of my friends who voted for Obama, are now regretting it and that is mainly because of the job situation. They believe he should've tackled the employment crisis first and worry about health care second. This I agree with.
What does everyone else think? Does anyone know people who voted for Obama and now sorry that they did? Know someone who wishes he tackled the job problem rather than health care first?
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