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Old 02-21-2008, 09:52 PM   #31
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This is excellent analysis that sums up the debate perfectly:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...21/689812.aspx


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Clinton ended the debate on a VERY conciliatory note and for the first time sounded like a candidate who realized she might not win.
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thanks for the link

watching some clips from the debate on CNN's website
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This is excellent analysis that sums up the debate perfectly:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...21/689812.aspx


That was a fantastic way to sum up tonight. Thanks for that!
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Time.com

Obama B +
Clinton B
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That was a fantastic way to sum up tonight. Thanks for that!
Anytime

I always love Chuck Todd's analysis. He is SO smart.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:04 PM   #36
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Anytime

I always love Chuck Todd's analysis. He is SO smart.
I've never heard of Chuck Todd. I rarely watch MSNBC. I truly only enjoy watching the NBC Nightly News, and then getting the rest of my news from online newspapers. I do catch CNN a bit more than FOX NEWS or MSNBC, etc.
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I used to watch CNN a lot more, but MSNBC's political analysis is by far the best. For hard news I generally turn to CNN, but MSNBC really does have the best political team.
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More grades from Time.com

Clinton:

Substance:A-
Style:B+
Offense: D-
Defense: C

OVERALL GRADE: B

Obama:

Substance: C+
Style: B
Offense: A
Defense: A-

OVERALL GRADE: B+
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Boy, that was boring.

I am cutting off on primary debates and watching crap TV from now on.

Nothing new.

The Obama grade on substance is not suprising. He is the king of bullshit.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:19 PM   #40
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I actually disagree with Time's final grade on the two based on their formula.

If you do it this way:

A: 4
B:3
C:2
D:1

And average them together, you have:

Obama: B+
Clinton: C

Plus, Clinton's + and - cancel out and she still has another -.

(Yes, I'm this analytical. No, Time isn't the final authority on how the debate is.)
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Just saw it live at my local Obama headquarters; Hilary mentioned Brownsville about 3-4 times because she was here last night. She is the definition of pandering and her "Hope you can Xerox" was cringeworthy and was justly met with boos from the Austin audience. Great debate; going to see Obama tomorrow morning in Edinburg, Texas. I'm actually very excited....is that weird?
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That's not weird at all. You'll be a witness of/part of history I can't wait to hear about your experience!
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He is the king of bullshit.
And why is that?

I've yet to see anybody actually explain why he's "all talk, no action." Most of the time they bring up his oratory skills and some of his supporters, but never actually the positions he's formed and explained.
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I love MSNBC analysis.

Even if they say pretty much the same thing five hundred times in the span of an hour, at least I can go around the house, do other things, come back and not miss anything.

I think it was a good debate (from the clips I saw) and I agree, Hillary did sound as if she was conceeding but I wouldn't count Tracy Flick, Sr out just yet.
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Any day of the week, I will take the 'change I can xerox' over the same ol' crap that makes me want to pop a xanax.
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