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Old 06-04-2008, 04:12 PM   #106
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Moment of Zen - Terry McAuliffe's Celebration | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

Does Terry McAuliffe see all this as some comedy, or is he just living in denial?
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Choosing on-camera to treat it like comedy as the safest way of expressing defiance, would be my reading. It doesn't play well and it doesn't help the Party, but that's what it looks like to me.
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with all your excitement

let me ask you something

how would you feel if we were getting reports that

super-delegates from
Iowa, Illinois, South Carolina, Virginia, and North Carolina
were coming in for Hillary
and this was putting her over the top and giving her the nomination?
I'd be like

"Aww hellz naw"









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He wasn't serious about Jon Stewart as head of NASA?
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I saw that last night when it aired, and I'm not sure what to make of it. This is a guy who did an interview with MSNBC last weekk while holding a bottle of Bacardi. Obviously, parts of it were said in a joking manner (i.e. Stewart as head of NASA), but he honestly seemed to believe some of what he was saying. If not, the man seriously needs to be a correspondent for the Daily Show, because he was hilarious.
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Obama's chances in November look great
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Obama's chances in November look great

He should be considered the odds on favorite.
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The fact remains that the Clinton campaign became the Giuliani campaign on a roughly 5 month delay. They were poorly planned strategically and were both predicated on the idea that their respective nominees would have the easy path to their parties' nomination. They didn't spread out resources and people on the ground to every state and territory, but rather focused on the only places they felt mattered. Both Clinton and Giuliani based their campaigns on assumptions instead of facts, and in the end it caused their downfalls.
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The fact remains that the Clinton campaign became the Giuliani campaign on a roughly 5 month delay. They were poorly planned strategically and were both predicated on the idea that their respective nominees would have the easy path to their parties' nomination. They didn't spread out resources and people on the ground to every state and territory, but rather focused on the only places they felt mattered. Both Clinton and Giuliani based their campaigns on assumptions instead of facts, and in the end it caused their downfalls.

That's pretty astute analysis. I wouldn't have been crushed if Clinton had won the nomination and though I'm cautiously optimistic about Obama getting the nom, I'm actually a bit skeptical about November. I was just talking to a friend of mine whose dad fits the "blue collar Democratic" profile that gave Hillary strong support and she said her dad would never vote for Obama because he's black. I suspect there are many Dem voters with a similar view and that makes me really sad. I would have liked to think that racism wouldn't be such a motivator among Democrats but I fear that is not the case.
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That's pretty astute analysis. I wouldn't have been crushed if Clinton had won the nomination and though I'm cautiously optimistic about Obama getting the nom, I'm actually a bit skeptical about November. I was just talking to a friend of mine whose dad fits the "blue collar Democratic" profile that gave Hillary strong support and she said her dad would never vote for Obama because he's black. I suspect there are many Dem voters with a similar view and that makes me really sad. I would have liked to think that racism wouldn't be such a motivator among Democrats but I fear that is not the case.
I agree. It's a shameful truth that in the United States of America in 2008, that either race or gender would be a deciding factor on who a voter supports. Frankly, people with those views don't deserve the right to vote.
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Obama the naive - Los Angeles Times

What do you make of this article? I've always known John Bolton is an idiot, but he can't seriously think that's a counter-argument against Obama. It's full of statements taken out of context and his own opinions, not facts. Clearly, it's an op-ed piece, so it's going to contain opinion, but those opinions have to be based on fact and reason, not "Obama wouldn't do what I think he should do, so he's wrong", statements. Yeah, Bolton, your foreign policy positions have worked out real well.
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John Bolton? One of the worse appointments Bush ever made. A completely insignificant man...
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That's pretty astute analysis. I wouldn't have been crushed if Clinton had won the nomination and though I'm cautiously optimistic about Obama getting the nom, I'm actually a bit skeptical about November. I was just talking to a friend of mine whose dad fits the "blue collar Democratic" profile that gave Hillary strong support and she said her dad would never vote for Obama because he's black. I suspect there are many Dem voters with a similar view and that makes me really sad. I would have liked to think that racism wouldn't be such a motivator among Democrats but I fear that is not the case.
Unfortunately, I know of a few people (my own mother included ) who will not vote for Obama in November based soley on his race. It's really a shame, because all you have to do is paint him white and stick a sensible pantsuit on him and bam, there's Hillary (essentially...).
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Unfortunately, I know of a few people (my own mother included ) who will not vote for Obama in November based solely on his race. It's really a shame, because all you have to do is paint him white and stick a sensible pantsuit on him and bam, there's Hillary (essentially...).
I don't know about members of your family

but, if anything I would be more inclined to vote for Obama because of his background, heritage and yes race

I wish I could have voted for Colin Powell in the 90s, or even in 2000
he was registered as an independent, for much of his life

he would have made an excellent nominee for either, of the major parties

as for Obama and being exactly the same as Hillary

you got to be kidding me
one of the reasons I was supporting Hillary is because I believe Bill Clinton was an "outstanding" president, with exceptional skills, I believe Hillary would have had a presidency similar to his.

Obama has torn down and ridiculed the "Clinton Presidency". Lumping it in with the W Administration.

Obama is inexperienced, I felt the same way about W.

I am not saying Obama will do what W has done.

I am saying I would rather have gone with a more "known" quantity.


And again, I do believe that there is a large percentage of people that would have voted for Powell that may not vote for Obama.


and again, I am certain that for every ignorant person that says they will not vote for Obama because of his race

There are many that are inclined to and "did" vote "for" him because they wanted the change to be the "race" of the nominee

more than they may have considered the actual "track record" and experience of the candidates.
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John Bolton? One of the worse appointments Bush ever made. A completely insignificant man...
Aside from Colin Powell, I can't think of one worthwhile appointment that Bush has made.
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