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Old 10-11-2005, 06:40 PM   #46
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here are some stats
Interesting, it shows the smallest increase in Christianity, with substantial growth in other religions and secularism.


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Yes, Reagan did mention the Almighty
but, so did Clinton.
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Interesting, it shows the smallest increase in Christianity, with substantial growth in other religions and secularism.

But is that a result of people rejecting Jesus more and more as you claim, or is it a result of recent immigration patterns and the consequent birth rate of those populations?
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But is that a result of people rejecting Jesus more and more as you claim, or is it a result of recent immigration patterns and the consequent birth rate of those populations?
Are they mutually exclusive? Someone can reject Christ no matter where they are from.
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Are they mutually exclusive? Someone can reject Christ no matter where they are from.


as a passionate agnostic, have i rejected christ under your definition?
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Are they mutually exclusive? Someone can reject Christ no matter where they are from.
Do you seriously mean to tell me that a couple recently immigrated from Afghanistan who say has 6 kids in the USA, and the children are all under the age of 12, you have an objection to my argument that those children are inflating the numbers of non-Christians?

To you, they are rejecting Christ, and that's how they should be classified? I guess I just don't get it.
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That was when he was with Monica
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*Sits and watches this very interesting debate continue to unfold*

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Old 10-12-2005, 12:48 AM   #52
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as a passionate agnostic, have i rejected christ under your definition?
You've received the message of Jesus Christ.

What are legitimate responses? Yes? No? I don't know?

Only you know the true answer to your question (I'm surprise we've turned to "classification" of people). If I had to guess based on the body of your posts, it would be somewhere between 2 & 3.
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You've received the message of Jesus Christ.



yes

I got the message

of

Jesus of Nazareth


and it is nothing close to what the fundamentalists are pushing
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Deep said exactly what I feel.
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You've received the message of Jesus Christ.

What are legitimate responses? Yes? No? I don't know?

Only you know the true answer to your question (I'm surprise we've turned to "classification" of people). If I had to guess based on the body of your posts, it would be somewhere between 2 & 3.


i agree with deep.

you initially framed the choice as either acceptance or rejection of Christ.

my reality, of course, is far more complicated than one thing or the other.
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Some fundamentalists are anti-Catholic. Does this mean they don't like the Catholic Church, or that they don't like Catholic people? I don't care that some people don't like my church. I do care that some people are prejudiced against me because I'm in it.
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Some fundamentalists are anti-Catholic. Does this mean they don't like the Catholic Church, or that they don't like Catholic people? I don't care that some people don't like my church. I do care that some people are prejudiced against me because I'm in it.
And, yet, as long as they're anti-gay and anti-abortion, the Catholic Church is perfectly happy to sell its soul to these kinds of nuts.

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yes

I got the message

of

Jesus of Nazareth


and it is nothing close to what the fundamentalists are pushing
Actually, you got a "different" Gospel (or is it "another" Gospel, I forget how the commercials frame it).

So it is obviously different than what fundamentalist Christians (and others) believe.
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i agree with deep.

you initially framed the choice as either acceptance or rejection of Christ.

my reality, of course, is far more complicated than one thing or the other.
Then I will leave it with you to answer the question (as we all get to give our "final" answer at some point ).
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Then I will leave it with you to answer the question (as we all get to give our "final" answer at some point ).


you made a cultural classification -- people who reject Christ.

i want to know the criteria upon which you created this classification.
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