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Old 07-23-2004, 11:24 PM   #1
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Nosey neighbors' tapes used as evidence

I have been seeing something on my local news that is very disturbing to me. Just in the last week, I have seen 2 stories where people were arrested based on nosey neighbor's videotapes. One was a man who put out his trash in the nude, the other was a couple drinking beer in the yard while their young son picks up a gun (but did not shoot it) Now, sure, neither of those things are good. But doesn't it bother you just a bit and make you feel uneasy that some weirdo might be zooming in on your private life, and what they might do with it?

To me, people who do such things are no more than voyeurs, peeping toms, and nosey snoops. Now if it were their own property and they set up a hidden camera to catch crooks breaking in or vandalizing, it would be understandable. But sitting around filming the neighbors is to me the worst kind of 'invasion of privacy' and I cannot believe the cops are using this as evidence to charge people! I thought such things were inadmissable in court? What's the world coming to, are we not safe anywhere?
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Must be RTWS (Reality Television Withdrawl Syndrome).
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That could have something to do with it, seriously. Personal videotape recorders have been popular and common since the late 80's, yet I have never heard of this happening before this month. It's chilling to think that nosey neighbors' gossip will take on a sinister new chapter!
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Well look at the Rodney King tapes...

America's funniest home videos, reality tv, all these hidden camera shows we're a society obcessed with voyerism. Now with the camera phones and video phones we're going to see a lot more. So watch you're back. We use to think "big brother" was going to be the problem, not's it's our neighbors.
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Well, this is what you get when you encourage paranoia. Look on the bright side, as long as you live a completely middle-of-the-road and conventional lifestyle, you're in no immediate danger.
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Put out the trash in the nude I think that this homevideo maker should be arrested for making porn.


Can those video makers not be sued for invading privacy ?
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People really need to learn to mind their own beeswax. The only time it's worth getting involved is if people's lives are in danger.

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Re: Nosey neighbors' tapes used as evidence

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Ithe other was a couple drinking beer in the yard while their young son picks up a gun (but did not shoot it)
This sort of freaks me out. Why the heck does anyone have a gun lying around for a child to find? It sounds like this child might have been in danger.
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This sort of freaks me out. Why the heck does anyone have a gun lying around for a child to find? It sounds like this child might have been in danger.
...or even worse, someone else's child. My family has lots of guns, everyone but me owns more than one and has since childhood, but we were raised hunting and fishing and know how to use, clean, and store a gun. My dad would completely go nutso when we left guns or bows anywhere that the neighbor kids or friends could find, either outside, in the garage, or in our house. It's so stupid to just leave things like that lying around, even if YOUR kids know what (not) to do with them. Those people deserve to be brought to court AND ridiculed on the primetime news!
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Our "right of privacy" is our window blinds. If we choose to act in the open, we cannot do so with the expectation of privacy as a right.
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What, not even in your front yard? Surely this isn't so much about privacy (in the sense of not being seen at all) as about privacy in the sense of not getting reported to the police for putting out your garbage. Let's not forget that there were two examples given. One admittedly involved some dodgy stuff with a gun, and one involved a guy putting out his rubbish with no clothes on. Maybe he just got out of the shower. It's hardly a crime.
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public indecency, I guess
wouldn't fly in most european countries.

And it's just as well...we we'ren't born with cloths on were we? Though , I admit that I was born with a pair of cleats on.
All the same, nature shouldn't be illegal.

I suppose
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What, not even in your front yard? Surely this isn't so much about privacy (in the sense of not being seen at all) as about privacy in the sense of not getting reported to the police for putting out your garbage. Let's not forget that there were two examples given. One admittedly involved some dodgy stuff with a gun, and one involved a guy putting out his rubbish with no clothes on. Maybe he just got out of the shower. It's hardly a crime.
Exactly.

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Re: Re: Nosey neighbors' tapes used as evidence

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This sort of freaks me out. Why the heck does anyone have a gun lying around for a child to find? It sounds like this child might have been in danger.
I'm sure he was, but if these people really gave a damn, WHY DIDN'T THEY just run straight over there and grab the gun, or at least yell "hey" to the parents? Did they realize the kid could have pulled the trigger and killed himself while they were filming, or even worse, running to get the camera? That's what reeks of nosiness and cheap thrills to me. Seems they were more interested in the show, seeing the story on the news, and getting the neighbors in trouble than the child's safety.

As for the naked guy, I also think that was nosiness and filmed for cheap thrills. They had to have seen him do it before to have been ready with the camera. They probably even laughed when they saw it! He wasn't hurting anyone. If they had a problem with his public display, they could have spoken to him in private and asked him not to do it, or even threatened him with the cops first. But sneaking around with the camera is nosey and low.

In both cases, I have a feeling that there may have been a history of bad blood between these people, and the 'filmmakers' used it for revenge or something

It is very scary to think this could become a trend and everyone has to fear being filmed in their own yard! What's next, zooming in through the windows?
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