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Old 07-29-2004, 09:58 AM   #46
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The life of the child was endangered further by a person who chose to keep filming instead of stopping him. I am glad to see one person in this thread, and several on TV, can see my point with this! This person is no hero to this child.
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Old 07-29-2004, 10:01 AM   #47
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I also find it more than ironic that people who always complain about 'government in our lives' and 'right to privacy' are not more upset that people are sneaking around other people's private lives with cameras.
I'm not defending either side. I'm saying we don't know the full story. Yes maybe she could have gone over there and taken the gun out of the child's hand, but if she's tried before? What if she's been threatened, does she feel safe approaching the house, she doen't know how many more guns are in the house or who's in there.

All I'm saying is that given the story as shown I think her side is much more defendable than theirs. Motives aside I'd rather than the parents be punished rather than a snoopy neighbor. Neither one would I like as my neighbor. But I'm choosing the side of the lesser evil, it has nothing to do with government or big brother.

You are not going to be able to stop people with cameras, you just can't.
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I also find it more than ironic that people who always complain about 'government in our lives' and 'right to privacy' are not more upset that people are sneaking around other people's private lives with cameras.
We are. I don't want the government keeping track of what books I borrow from the library, or who I call on my mobile phone or what political organizations I contribute to. I also don't want my neighbour taking photos of me sunbathing in the privacy of my own garden. I don't like my privacy being invaded whether it's by my government or my neighbour.

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But turning people in is so extreme. Once the 'authorities' get into someone's life, it's ruined. That woman was only going to leave her alone one day, now she's lost her child, her job, and her home for one stupid mistake.
Then your problem is with the authorities response, not with the fact that they were notified of the problem. I don't envy social services one bit, they have to make incredibly difficult decisions like this every day of the week. Imagine trying to decide whether to take that girl away from her mother, with all the trauma and distress that causes to the whole family, or to leave the child in her family's care and risk the incident happening again. It's an impossible decision, how can you weigh up those risks?

Imagine a hypothetical situation based on this example: social services leave the girl with her mother, only the next week the mother can't find a babysitter so she leaves the girl home alone again. This time she isn't so lucky, this time when the girl gets scared, there's no neighbour to make sure she's okay and instead she runs into the street and is hit by a car. Maybe you'll say that wouldn't happen, the mother has learned her lesson, but what do you think your reponse would be when you found out that only a week earlier social services had been notified that this woman left her five year old daughter alone and failed to take any action? Are you saying you wouldn't question why they failed to act when they had chance?
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