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Old 02-07-2003, 02:22 AM   #16
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The President is not the first public official to refer to North Korea as being Evil. North Korea has been in the process of developing Nuclear Weapons long before W ever ran for office.
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The President is not the first public official to refer to North Korea as being Evil. North Korea has been in the process of developing Nuclear Weapons long before W ever ran for office.
Yes, but just when some countries (notable South-Korea) were trying to normalise relations with North-Korea, with the goal of opening up this isolated country, did president Bush grossly insult North-Korea. I don't know that much about Asian cultures, but I do know that losing face is one of the worst things that can happen to someone (or a country). So if someone makes you lose face, it will have a serious effect on them, giving them every reason to be angry. Germany might protest when Rumsfeld compares them with Libya and Cuba (the USA, after all, also belongs in the same group as China and Iraq, all still allow capital punishment for minors (below 18 years)). But North-Korea gets determined to make the USA pay (dearly) for that insult.

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Old 02-07-2003, 03:47 AM   #18
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The difference is that reason behind the action being taking. For example, there was no legitamite reason for Germany's aggression against Poland or any other country in Europe. There was a legitamite reason for Israel's 1967 pre-emtive attack against the Arab countries that were obviously preparing a 3 front attack. Each case is unique and dependent upon the details.
Legitimate, STING2. Legitimate.

And Germany┤s aggression was pure pre-emptive self defense, measured by your standards.
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Old 02-07-2003, 06:09 AM   #19
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I don't know that much about Asian cultures, but I do know that losing face is one of the worst things that can happen to someone (or a country). So if someone makes you lose face, it will have a serious effect on them, giving them every reason to be angry. C ya!
Exactly my point! Thank you for saying it better than I did.

I would also like to point out that our country also has not lived up to the agreement we signed with N. Korea.


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I think Bush could have come up with some word a bit more diplomatic and intelligent than "evil." "Evil" automatically comes up with a religious connotation, and the hysteria level automatically cranks up several notches the minute you bring up that word. *That* is why I cringed the minute Bush said "Axis of Evil," because it was some cutesy little quip that was going to cause more harm than good. Now North Korea is taking advantage of that hysterical statement, and, frankly, I'm not shocked.

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Not shocked, but are you concerned?
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Not shocked, but are you concerned?
I'm concerned that Bush is as hysterical and vengeful as Ariel Sharon is in Israel, no matter if their enemies are theoretically bad. I fear their solutions will just make things worse, not better.

I mean, whomever would think that we are now closer to the potentials for chemical, biological, and nuclear warfare than ever before?

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HIPHOP,

"Legitimate, STING2. Legitimate."

"And Germany┤s aggression was pure pre-emptive self defense, measured by your standards"

Wrong, I already stated that Germany's aggression was not. There was nothing that Germany pre-empted.
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