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Old 11-05-2004, 04:03 PM   #46
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My spanish teacher brought this to our (my class's) attention in high school. I usually avoid calling myself American for this reason. I'd rather say I'm from the United States (or Ohio now, and more people would know where that is...heh.)
I don't know if you want to tell people you're from Ohio.

Thanks for all the replies in this thread -- it's been interesting. I guess my next question is if any of you ever run into Americans and how do they react when you tell them about your views? I ask because one of the questions during the town hall debate was from someone who said her relatives went to Europe and were surprised by how knowledgable people were about American policy and how they were for the most part against it -- at least much more than here.
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I'm not sure anyone intended the word America to refer to the entire continent.
Oh no? Then what is the continent called?

America is America. The US is the US.
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Old 11-05-2004, 04:34 PM   #48
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It's the U.S. of A. if I recall. That is the complete name. So, we ARE Americans. It's part of our name.
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Please, for the love of Mercy, let us not get away from the topic at hand.

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I don't know if you want to tell people you're from Ohio.

Thanks for all the replies in this thread -- it's been interesting. I guess my next question is if any of you ever run into Americans and how do they react when you tell them about your views? I ask because one of the questions during the town hall debate was from someone who said her relatives went to Europe and were surprised by how knowledgable people were about American policy and how they were for the most part against it -- at least much more than here.

No, you really don't want to be telling people you're from Ohio right now...and I'm from Ohio! Wahhhh!!! (If you must admit to being from Ohio, tell people you're from Yellow Springs -- it's overwhelmingly progressive )

I have noticed that also -- that people from other nations are far more likely to have a decent understanding of US policy than the average US citizen is to have about the policies of anywhere else. And sometimes people from other nations have a better understanding of US policy than do many of our own citizens.
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Re: Non-American views of America/Americans

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But the country is really divided. i think everyone at school voted for kerry, and that sasy something about the young vote.
The country is not really divided, Clinton never won either election with more than 49% of the vote, and the liberal media was never using this 'divided nation' excuse back in the 90s.

As for the young people at your school voting for Kerry, the young people at your school probably aren't paying any taxes or very very little taxes, so it's smart for them to vote Kerry. If a guy is going to promise a watered-down version of socialism and social programs, it's smart for people that don't pay taxes to support that. Problem is that most voters are taxpayers and have jobs, and don't feel like getting involved in Kerry's social programs which he makes sure he targets at low income minorities.
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:29 PM   #52
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I don't think our country is divided. I just think there's a lot of people who are disappointed. But, we don't hate one another.
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....anyway, there's been talk of a "divided nation" since the Civil War. It's hardly a new concept.
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I am sure that Dan Rather was really working to help Bush by using fabricated TANG documents and the NYT was setting a trap for John Kerry with the explosives debacle.
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I hardly consider John Kerry liberal, but maybe that's just me.
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I hardly consider John Kerry liberal, but maybe that's just me.
Me either! But Rove and his henchmen said it often enough, and enough people feel it's a horrible thing to be (I don't happen to be one of those people), that it stuck -- true or not. Amazing how easy it can be to make something "true" even if it isn't.
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Me either! But Rove and his henchmen said it often enough, and enough people feel it's a horrible thing to be (I don't happen to be one of those people), that it stuck -- true or not. Amazing how easy it can be to make something "true" even if it isn't.
Why do I find your last statement so funny? Lol. I guess when it comes to "studies".
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Why do I find your last statement so funny? Lol. I guess when it comes to "studies".
Well my dear, you've been doing lots of that very thing today. Most here aren't buying it, but that doesn't mean you aren't trying.


And I told you we were sirens...our song keeps dragging you back in.


Of course, the sirens lured their prey to be dashed on the rocks...
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Well my dear, you've been doing lots of that very thing today. Most here aren't buying it, but that doesn't mean you aren't trying.


And I told you we were sirens...our song keeps dragging you back in.


Of course, the sirens lured their prey to be dashed on the rocks...
You know what I meant.
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as far as clinton not takign crap from saddam...US fighters patrolling the no fly zone were targeted or locked on an average of once per day for several years during his presidency. we took out anti-aircraft sites routinely but systematically let his regime re-establish these sites with chinese technology. also, i don't really remember any massive bombing campaigns in bagdad at the time. i'm not sure you can count the aspirin factory. the war to keep weapons inspectors in country was also not waged very effectively.

regarding the BBC...i just wan't to know why any post i have ever made to their website has been suppressed. i could see if there were offensive language or some other inhibitor, but they seem to place a filter on your idealogy.
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