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Old 12-21-2004, 03:46 PM   #1
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No Person in North Korea has AIDS?

N. Korea, 'only country on earth' free of AIDS, expells
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Tuesday, December 21, 2004
SEOUL – North Korea has expelled 27 foreigners it said tested positive for HIV and claimed the country remains free of AIDS.

North Korea is "the only country on the earth that has no AIDS-related patients," South Korea's Yonhap News Agency reported quoting North Korea's Pyongyang Time. Yonhap reported the magazine in Pyongyang carried an interview with Han Kyong-Ho, director of Pyongyang's Central Hygienic and Anti-Epizootic Center in its Dec. 4 issue.

In the interview, Han said that more than 400,000 people have been tested for AIDS since 1989, and that none other than the 27 foreigners was found to have the disease.

"Those 27 foreigners were sent home at their request," Han said. He did not elaborate on the period of time in which the disease was allegedly discovered and when the foreigners were expelled or to which nations they went.

Han attributed the non-existence of AIDS patients in North Korea to the "sound and moral lifestyle" of North Korean people.

Many North Korean statements are impossible to confirm independently and objectively, to health officials in South Korea say. "WHO [World Health Organization] reports every year that there is no AIDS patient reported from North Korea, but the international health organization has no way to confirm the report," said Koh Eun-A, an official at the AIDS & Tuberculosis Section of the National Institute of Health in Seoul.
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Bull. I know that the borders are ridiculously tight, but by now North Korea must have "repatriated" somebody from China or someplace else who managed to contract the virus.
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They probably just lock up or execute any sufferers.
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Yeah, it's probably a lot more efficient than having them deported.
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Somebody once posted that Cuba quarantined people with it back when the epidemic first started and they now have hardly any cases either. There was a time here in the US when there were only a few hundred people who had it. I know it's not American to do something like that but if those few people had been contained and the spread stopped think of all the MILLIONS of lives worldwide that would have been saved.
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Somebody once posted that Cuba quarantined people with it back when the epidemic first started and they now have hardly any cases either. There was a time here in the US when there were only a few hundred people who had it. I know it's not American to do something like that but if those few people had been contained and the spread stopped think of all the MILLIONS of lives worldwide that would have been saved.
I think it may have been a wise idea, but I've read in a few sources that HIV may not have one single origin. If it did, I believe that would be West Africa, so containing the virus in the States would not have slowed the spread in the most heavily infected regions of the world.

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Is it known where the emergence of HIV in humans took place?

Many people now assume that because HIV has apparently developed from a form of SIV found in a type of chimpanzee in West Africa, that is was actually in West Africa that HIV first emerged in humans. It is then presumed that HIV spread from there around the world.

However, as discussed above, chimpanzees are not necessarily the original source of HIV and it is likely that the virus crossed over to humans on more than one occasion.2 So it is quite possible that HIV emerged at the same time in say both South America and Africa, or that it even emerged in the Americas before it emerged in Africa.
http://www.avert.org/origins.htm
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I find it really hard to believe that any country in the world is completely AIDS-free. Could they just be playing some international denial game here? It wouldn't surprise me if they were just plain being dishonest about it.
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North Korea being dishonest
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N. Korea, 'only country on earth' free of AIDS,
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Somebody once posted that Cuba quarantined people with it back when the epidemic first started and they now have hardly any cases either. There was a time here in the US when there were only a few hundred people who had it. I know it's not American to do something like that but if those few people had been contained and the spread stopped think of all the MILLIONS of lives worldwide that would have been saved.
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I think it may have been a wise idea, but I've read in a few sources that HIV may not have one single origin. If it did, I believe that would be West Africa, so containing the virus in the States would not have slowed the spread in the most heavily infected regions of the world.
This type of thinking is really scary. Hard to believe that rational people can honestly think like this. I think it's disgusting.
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They must be blessed by GOD.
Kim Jong Il... has connections to the divine...
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Can't really doubt it completely, but I'm going to say that U2kitten had an interesting point. I don't want to officially take sides as of now, but it seems like it could be a strange debate between morality and saving millions of lives?
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No, there are ways to prevent the disease from spreading without interning all the sufferers - to lock people up because they are sick is the action of despots, and it is wrong.
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No, there are ways to prevent the disease from spreading without interning all the sufferers - to lock people up because they are sick is the action of despots, and it is wrong.
I don't find it moral at all either, but how can it be prevented?
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Active use of condoms, widespread education about the risks and the facts of the matter (i.e. raping virgins does not cure it).
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