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Old 12-21-2002, 11:06 PM   #46
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President Bush did not want Lott to step down.
President Bush does not think he is a bigot.

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Interesting.....
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It wasn't a casual comment.


It's disingenuous of you to keep insisting that it was. Go back and look at this man's voting record in Congress.
I am not disputing Lott's record or anything he has said from the Senate floor. But your stance cannot be maintained unless you link his record with his comment.

Each one of my posts has focused on the comment alone. A toast at a birthday party, absent extenuating circumstances, is a casual comment.
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A toast at a birthday party, absent extenuating circumstances, is a casual comment.

If you can separate his comment from his past, then go for it. I can't separate what people say from what they believe. You'll have to school me in that skill someday. Or not.
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Ya know Martha, I have responded respectfully to your posts.

The point is, I believe the constitution already covers people of different color/sex/orientation or add anything you want to add to it. I suppose we could add Amendments to it for every special interest group if we wanted to.

If my sense of humor offended you, I am sorry. I have nothing but respect for my fellow man, straight, gay or whatever. As a matter of fact, I do believe I was quite outspoken about my belief that gay couples should be allowed to adopt on this board.

All this is fine and dandy, however, it really does not belong in this thread now does it?

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I didn't bring this issue up. Melon did. You made fun of him. I responded to you.


Your sense of humor at times thinly veils your hostility. Some of your responses to me in other threads have been neither respectful nor appropriate. They're condescending at times, like the last line above. You once wondered aloud when I'd cut you the slack I cut Diamond. I said that I'd let you know. Not yet. It'll happen when you really do show me, and others, respect.
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President Bush did not want Lott to step down.
President Bush does not think he is a bigot.

This coming weeks US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT.

http://ad.smni.com/ad/launchjsrdir.asp?po=1081236146

Interesting.....
I read a article totally differnt from this today that said the exact opposite.
I think privarely he did, publicly he will always say things to assuage the wounded..
GW is a brilliant polictian.

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I didn't bring this issue up. Melon did. You made fun of him. I responded to you.


Your sense of humor at times thinly veils your hostility. Some of your responses to me in other threads have been neither respectful nor appropriate. They're condescending at times, like the last line above. You once wondered aloud when I'd cut you the slack I cut Diamond. I said that I'd let you know. Not yet. It'll happen when you really do show me, and others, respect.
I am truly sorry you feel this way.

As for your implying I am "hostile"......


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The point is, I believe the constitution already covers people of different color/sex/orientation or add anything you want to add to it. I suppose we could add Amendments to it for every special interest group if we wanted to.
Actually, orientation is not covered under the constitution or amendments, as currently interpreted by the Supreme Court. And we did add amendments for "special interests"--non-whites with Amendment 15 and women with Amendment 19.

Sorry, but your argument doesn't carry weight.

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It's interesting how all of you guys start out by saying how much you can't stand the old boy, and then bring up other people to take the focus away from someone who appears to have been very consistent in his bigoted views and the expression of those views.



hahahaha, bravo martha, bravo.
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The policies promlugated by the left have failed miserably over the last 4 decades.
Care to elaborate over this sweeping generalization?

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Care to elaborate over this sweeping generalization?

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Actually, orientation is not covered under the constitution or amendments, as currently interpreted by the Supreme Court. And we did add amendments for "special interests"--non-whites with Amendment 15 and women with Amendment 19.

Sorry, but your argument doesn't carry weight.

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I think this would make an excellent thread.
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[People bad for American would include] Senators and Presidents who-
abuse power
obstruct the law
lie under oath
prey on women
refuse to take ownership of their wrong doings are bad for America
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bad for humanity..
Simple as that.

Oh, you mean Bob Packwood?
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I am sorry I do not have the integrity to step down from the office of which I hold.

Nixon at least had the character trait to not put the country through the crap.
There is a *big* difference between Watergate and having sex with an intern. Can you say "diversion legislation"?

Impeachment, in both instances it was evoked, was nothing but a political ploy to humiliate the president. For Andrew Johnson, it was over his refusal to accept a law that the 3/4 Republican Congress imposed that was later declared unconstitutional in the 1870s. But it was already too late: his name was smeared all over the place, and that was all that mattered. For Clinton, it was no different. What does Kenneth Starr's successor determine about Whitewater--you know, what the independent counsel was *supposed* to investigate, but, rather, went off on some tawdry, tabloid-worthy sex investigation--after Clinton is out of office? He's innocent. But where was that in the evening news?

Nixon? He was completely guilty, and Nixon had the taped conversations to prove it.

In addition, there is a *huge* difference between being Senate Majority Leader and the President. If Bush made comments like Trent Lott did, do any of us expect that Bush would have resigned? Not really. Quite frankly, resignation seems to be the fate of all of the Republican Majority Leaders since the Republicans regained power in the Senate in the 1990s.

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Yeah. I didn't think so.

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