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Old 04-03-2008, 01:22 PM   #1
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No benefit in drinking eight glasses of water a day

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...-mostviewedbox

....and coffee's good for you after all....


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...nhealth303.xml
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:38 PM   #2
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Drinking 8 glasses a day is good for you in Arizona.......
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Old 04-03-2008, 02:00 PM   #3
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On average, the body uses between 1.7 and 2.6 pints (one to 1.5 litres) of water daily and more in high temperatures or when exercising.

This is replaced through drinks but a large amount is also contained in food, so it is not necessary to drink an equivalent amount to replace water levels.
I should show this to the colleague whose office is next to mine--every day she drinks an entire Super Big Gulp (1.3 liter) cup of water during the day at work "because it's good for you." That's in addition to the multiple cups of coffee she drinks every morning and whatever else she drinks after going home. And she doesn't have any sort of regular exercise regimen either.
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Old 04-03-2008, 02:16 PM   #4
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You should drink lots of water after a good theraputic massage to wash the toxins out.

Water is better to consume than sodie pops all day-I bet any Dr would tell you.

I'm guilty of pounding down diet cokes 4-8 a day.
not good, i know.

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Interesting.

By the 8x8oz a day standard, I should be dehydrated. I drink maybe 3 drinks a day. Something in the morning, a glass of water or no calorie lemonade for dinner, and then another after I work out. I think on average I drink maybe 40-60oz of liquid a day. If I drink just b/c I feel I should, I just feel heavy and bloated. I've managed to lose 25 lbs in a few months without drinking non-stop. I simply drink when I'm thirsty, which is only 2-3 times a day, just a normal sized glass. I do not drink soda or coffee, just water, no calorie no sugar lemonade, and the occasional hot chocolate.
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the occasional hot chocolate.
You young people. So decadent.
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What "toxins" would need to be "washed out" after a massage?
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My mom is prone to congestive heart failure, where fluid surrounds the heart and enters the lungs. We had a discussion with her doctor regarding the water issue a year or so ago, and he told us the same thing, that 8 glasses per day is nonsense and not necessary for anyone, that drinking when you're thirsty is adequate. In fact, for some patients like this, they're supposed to monitor their fluid intake every day to ensure it's not above a certain level (1 or 1.5 litres, I think). My mom doesn't have to monitor, though.

From everything I've ever heard, coffee is a diuretic, and doesn't count toward your daily fluid intake.
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I think this doctor is completely wrong and there is plenty of research to refute his claims (and similar claims by other traditional allopathic doctors). And frankly he looked really dehydrated to me!

http://www.watercure.com/bookreviews/newstarget.html
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What "toxins" would need to be "washed out" after a massage?
My massage therapist tells me to drink and flush out toxins released after a massage.
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What "toxins" would need to be "washed out" after a massage?
Environmental toxins that are released during a massage. Toxins you absorb walking down the street, breathing exhaust fumes, toxins in laundry detergents and household cleaning fluids, and from pesticides from many of the foods we eat. The list is endless. Most of us are very toxic and my health has benefited greatly from eliminating toxins regularly from my body. I no longer have allergies, for example, or the occasional eczema outbreak.
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i'm with the desert girls on this one. 8 might be overkill, but your urine should be pale yellow all day long and should not have a strong smell.

(any chance you two will be anywhere near Tucson the last week of April?)
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i'm with the desert girls on this one. 8 might be overkill, but your urine should be pale yellow all day long and should not have a strong smell.

(any chance you two will be anywhere near Tucson the last week of April?)
Okay, I revise what I said. Eight glasses seems to be some arbitrary number--I don't know where that came from. BUT, I don't think the benefit of water can be underestimated based on my own experience, that of my friends, and the advice of many excellent doctors and healthcare practitioners I've worked with. I think most people don't drink enough water but I did have a knee-jerk reaction to the title of the thread. But I live in the desert at a high altitude--we need more water here.

I drink water like crazy. I drink half my body weight in ounces of water everyday and sometimes I add a little Celtic sea salt to it so it's really hydrating and doesn't just run through me.

(Sorry Irvine--I have commitments here that week. )
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pretty much agree with jg.....

.....while 8 glasses might be too much for some one of short statue, one the thin side etc.....I'm pretty sure some one taller (and people heavier than average weight) would probably need close to 8, to above 8 glasses a day maybe closer to the 10 mark.
Obviously exercise, higher temps-- you need to replenish during & after.

It flushes those environmental toxins out, helps various bio-chemical processes to take place properly, keeps the blood at a proper liquidity...... and other stuff i've read about ?ie"brain fog" .

I do my best to get the 8. Sometimes I am dehydrated for a bit/ a while esp IF i forget to take a bottle with me while I'm out, and about.

I'm mid-50's enjoy mostly good physical health, good blood etc test results, and good flexibilty- my problems for the most part have been with eye & ear stuff I was born with [not so good hearing, and LOUD concerts rock&roll added trouble/ VERY near-sighted too].
*REPEAT* "ear-plugs are my friends"*! I have permanent ringing in one ear from a WHO concert from waaay back from whence people didn't wear them for concerts.

I can still be at a U2 or Springsteen concert for in stance, and spend most of the time on my feet & dancing by my seat.

Usually no aches & pains unless I've "done something" ie over-done or in wrong postition -
like I rarely <2x's a year to once every 2 years> have any back pain [but I HAVE had it, and pretty bad for short stints of time <hrs - a few days> -relatively speaking to many others]. Only when i sit too long in one particular way, and stretch out too (sometimes) much to get at stuff I'm organizing/ cleaning up does it have a chance of happening.
I usually get a warning sign- then I readjust my position/activities. So I've learned to mostly avoid it> it did sneak up on me 3 weeks ago [very unusual], but i had been doing a lot of reorganizing etc.

So among other things {good foods, walking a lot, some tai ch, having play-time & fun etc} I also attribute often drinking a healthy amount of water as part of my efforts to remain healthy. Some good genes, and luck have probably played a part in there for me, too!
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I drink water like crazy.
Despite what my mom's doctor said, and articles like this, I still do, as well. I pretty much always have a bottle of water with me. If measuring in the standard 8 oz increments (who really drinks from glasses that small?), I generally have 8 a day, probably more like 10 in the warm months.

The downside is, I pee a lot.

And speaking of naturopathic matters, I also take what many would consider insane amounts of vitamin C every day, and have for 10 or 12 years. Linus Pauling is my hero.
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