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Old 08-28-2006, 11:20 PM   #76
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No, I do not think my race is superior. That's one reason I would absolutely refuse to do the show. I do believe there are non-racists who will do the show anyway. However, I believe that there are probably people on the show who do have racist feelings and of course, they will not refuse to do the show. It will turn into a race war for some of the contestants; I really think that is a big danger in this situation.
Which is exactly why I said this:

"It's your own damn arrogance that you believe people less intelligent than you (which is everyone that doesn't agree with you) will use the results of the show as an excuse to deport illegal immigrants, burn crosses, and uh, copy the asian kid's math test."

Which of course is an exaggeration, but gets to the heart of the matter. Let people make their own decisions rather than decrying something for the "greater good". This "outcry" is a perfect example of PC going too far.

And as to the danger... What danger? Lets say your right and some idiot is a racist on the show... So what? It would probably show the world how much of an idiot he/she is.
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Old 08-28-2006, 11:24 PM   #77
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yes, but you see, when you get into the whole, "i think that you're thinking the following ..." you're being absolutely no different.
Not really. I just proved it. Whenever someone is worried about the decisions of others, not their well being, or whatnot; but the choices they make, it just seems to always come down to the fact that they think they know what's best.
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^

What a broad statement you're making.

I just think it's a stupid idea coming from an incredibly boring show that's still trying to stay relevant.
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This "outcry" is a perfect example of PC going too far.
It is so entertaining watching you accuse 80s of being PC and liberal.


You have no idea.
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Which is exactly why I said this:

"It's your own damn arrogance that you believe people less intelligent than you (which is everyone that doesn't agree with you) will use the results of the show as an excuse to deport illegal immigrants, burn crosses, and uh, copy the asian kid's math test."

Which of course is an exaggeration, but gets to the heart of the matter. Let people make their own decisions rather than decrying something for the "greater good". This "outcry" is a perfect example of PC going too far.
It's your own arrogance that makes you think you know what people on here "really mean" by what they're saying, especially when most of the people you're talking about have been around here a heck of a lot longer than you and know each other's style a lot better than you. If you knew anything about me, you'd know I'm not PC.

Unless of course, you call it being "PC" to be against race-baiting (which is what the coming season of Survivor is all about).

I think that the producers are aiming for an additional market with this coming season. They've got the reality crowd hooked, now they're trying to entice the Jerry Springer - loving crowd.
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Well, I suppose it depends omn who we are comparing 80's to...haha!!!!
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This really is a fascinating argument, isn't it It's like when nbc and I agreed on something and he commented, if you scratch the surface enough you are bound to find common ground.

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Not really. I just proved it. Whenever someone is worried about the decisions of others, not their well being, or whatnot; but the choices they make, it just seems to always come down to the fact that they think they know what's best.


it's funny when you think that people who don't agree with you are less intelligent than you.



martha's right: you have no idea.

but keep on your jihad against your own self-serving definition of "political correctness" and find it wherever you think it's lurking (especially when in the hearts of the very most conservative on this board).

onward conservative soldier!
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Could we knock off the bickering, please? If we can't just discuss this in a civil, respectful manner, the thread will be closed.
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It's your own arrogance that makes you think you know what people on here "really mean"
Pot kettle black, white, yellow & brown.
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Could we knock off the bickering, please? If we can't just discuss this in a civil, respectful manner, the thread will be closed.
I'm not gonna say it again.
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http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=30472

Survivor' Stirs Up Supremacists
Web Posters Embrace Show's Racial Split
By James Hibberd


CBS's plan to racially segregate the tribes for the 13th season of "Survivor" has white-supremacist Web bulletin boards buzzing, prompting concern from the Southern Poverty Law Center civil rights group.


"It has lit up the white-supremacist world," said Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Report at the SPLC. "It's been a fairly remarkable reaction. [The format] plays into the hands of many people in this country who have racist feelings."

The upcoming season of the 6-year-old CBS reality show has contestants separated by race into four groups: The African-American Tribe, the White Tribe, the Hispanic Tribe and the Asian-American Tribe. The tribes will stay segregated for about half the season.

Since the format was announced two weeks ago, the plan has been widely criticized as a racially inflammatory ratings stunt. Show creator Mark Burnett has said the format was a response to criticism that the reality program didn't include enough minorities.

People posting messages on white supremacist Web sites such as Stormfront.org and Vanguardnewsnetwork.com, are greeting the "Survivor" format with a mix of hope and suspicion: Some hail the idea as a way to foster racial pride among whites, but others fear Hollywood will portray whites unfavorably.

"This is a great idea," wrote poster "Drafli Hakon" on Stormfront, which claims 120,000 members. "This will get all those millions of couch potatoes who watch the show [rooting] for their own. Win, lose or draw, millions of whites will start to remember that they ARE part of a tribe. If the Whites win, they will feel pride. If they lose, they will feel resentment towards those who won. It's win-win for us."

Another poster, "Krom," agreed. "This is great and should be really interesting!" the poster wrote. "One benefit I see is that people will really see racial differences are real PLUS they will be able to root for their own people; a sense of racial solidarity. Good luck to the white team!"

Much of the reaction is tempered by fearful certainty that the show will portray whites in a negative light.

"The show will choose the weakest and most indecisive whites to be on the island, and the opposite for the other races (except the asians, maybe)," wrote one poster, "Kragen." "The show will also be carefully edited to fit their agenda ... to make people think whites are nothing without non-whites."

CBS declined to comment about the message boards. Mr. Burnett could not be reached for comment by press time.

Mr. Burnett has denied the show will inspire racism and has called critics "less than open-minded."

Mr. Potok, whose nonprofit group investigates racist organizations, said segregating players is an unhelpful way to address diversity issues. "I'm not sure if creating a mini-race war on TV is much of a solution to an affirmative-action problem," he said. "To some people, this is a chance to get up and cheer for your race. And that's not helpful at a time when race relations are doing poorly in America."

One poster on Stormfront noted that the new "Survivor" format might "double or triple [CBS's] ratings." To which another member hopefully replied: "It might double or triple Stormfront's ratings." Stephanie Robbins contributed to this report.
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Well

it seems like all the complaining was for nothing


all the contestants behaved well

it seemed like they did not care too much for the segregation


when the tribes merged last night
they all said they were much happier being integrated


I am wondering if some people were not projecting their attitudes and feelings about race on these contestants
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i've never missed a single episode of survivor since the show began.

here's my thought.

if the people who are actually ON the show don't care about being divided into races, why should anyone else?

Good call...

Most of the sentiment here appears to be meaningless anti-survivor waffle.

If it's ok to segregate people based on gender (like they have done in the past), then it's ok to do this racial thing.

That said, it is a shame that there is no Native American representation.

And about perpetuating streotypes....it's no worse than a lot of those sitcoms that are centered around African American families or Caucasian familes, like My Wife And Kids and Married to the Kellys...

Crikey, what an over-reaction...ease up peoples...
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