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Old 06-14-2005, 10:37 AM   #1
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New study: Homosexual men prone to promiscuity

Any thoughts on this article?

Note that I have not formed an opinion on it yet but I wanted to bounce some ideas with the forum and get your thoughts on it.

MARRIAGE DIGEST: New study: Homosexual men prone to promiscuity
By Michael Foust

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population.

According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners. All total, 61.3 percent of the area's homosexual men have had more than 30 partners, and 87.8 percent have had more than 15, the research found.

As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said.

The three-year study on the sexual habits of Chicago's citizens will appear in the upcoming book, "The Sexual Organization of The City" (University of Chicago Press), due out this spring.

The researchers interviewed 2,114 people from throughout the city and its suburbs, asking them detailed questions about their sexual behavior and beliefs.

While the research dealt with the behavior of all people -- heterosexuals included -- its findings on homosexual men are sure to raise eyebrows.

"Informants from several institutional spheres noted the common expectation among white gay men of having multiple sex partners," researchers wrote. "Ads for gay bars and clubs convey the message that being gay is about having sexual encounters, not relationships.... The majority of personal ads in city papers under the headline 'men seeking men' identify casual sex rather than long-term relationships as their goal."

The sexual partners of homosexual men are likely to be someone they previously did not know, researchers found. Nearly 60 percent of respondents said their circle of friends did not know their most recent sex partner.

The most likely meeting place was a bar or dance club, where 50 percent of homosexual men said they met their most recent partner.

Researchers said that homosexual men tended to be primarily "transactional" -- a term used for seeking short-term sexual encounters -- while homosexual women tended to be more relational by seeking "enduring sexual relationships."

Researchers concluded that a number of factors encourage homosexual male promiscuity, including the presence of popular meeting places and the "absence of cultural forces that encourage monogamy."

The research team was led by Edward O. Laumann, professor of sociology at the University of Chicago and the co-author of several other books on sexuality.

Traditionalists say that the lack of monogamy among homosexual men underscores the notion that homosexuality is not natural. They also say that such unhealthy behavior should play a larger role in the national debate over same-sex "marriage," because its legalization would radically undermine the traditional belief in monogamy.

The New York Times ran a story in August showing that homosexuals in Canada, where same-sex "marriage" is legal in two provinces, are not rushing to tie the knot. The story followed two men in their 40s, David Andrew and David Warren, who have lived together for seven years.

Although the men promise to protect one another, the story said "they stop short of monogamy, which is something Mr. Andrew also says he does not believe in."
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Here's another study:

Syphilis Rates Drop In Countries That Legalize Gay Relationships

(Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) A new study on European countries which recognize same-sex unions shows there has been a significant reduction in syphilis since the gay family laws were adopted.

The study by Swarthmore College economist Thomas Dee looked at countries like Holland and Belgium which allow same-sex marriage and other European countries which have strong domestic partner laws. In all, 12 European countries were examined.

“The evidence shows these laws could dramatically reduce risky sexual behavior and the social costs of some sexually transmitted infections,” said Dee. “However, the results may be even more important because of what they suggest are the likely effects of gay marriage on the degree of personal commitment in same-sex relationships.”

The study covered the years between 1989 and 2003.

The syphilis rate dropped on average 24 percent, Dr. Dee reports in the journal National Bureau of Economic Research, however, he notes that the effect on the prevalence of gonorrhea and HIV appears to be smaller and insignificant.

Professor Dee employs economic principles to study a wide range of education and other social issues. In addition to teaching at Swarthmore he is a faculty research fellow with the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Mass.

The study did not examine the relationship between syphilis and same-sex unions in the US or Canada. Massachusetts is the only state where gay marriage legal, although a growing number of states offer domestic partner protections. In Canada, same-sex marriage is legal in most provinces.

Dr Dee said that those areas in North America where same-sex marriage is legal have not allowed gays to be married for a period long enough to study.

"However, I would deem the results suggestive of what might be expected here," he told 365Gay.com. "In particular, because the U.S., Canada and the European countries share many basic social mores and socioeconomic circumstances, it seems reasonable to expect that "gay marriage" would have similar effects."

"In fact, given some of the ways Europe differs from the U.S., the effects of gay marriage could conceivably be larger here. For example, gay marriage (and domestic partnerships) in the U.S. can make available partner benefits like health insurance that are universally available without marriage in many European countries.," he said.

Syphilis has been on the rise in the United States since 2000, when the incidence of the disease was at its lowest in six decades. In 2003, the most recent year for which data are available, 7,177 cases were reported, compared with 5,979 in 2000.

It is often seen as an indicator of HIV cases to come since it is transmitted through risky sex.

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i'm torn between rolling my eyes and ranting angrily.

where are the similar stats for heterosexuals? i'll bet you'd find there's not a lot of difference.

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I think this is possible. Not because I have any problem with homosexuality but because so much of society does not accept it. That kind of forces many of them to be secretive, which means less real relationships and more one night stands.
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For the record, I hate these studies a lot. They're offensive. Imagine if I created a study, and determined that all "heterosexual men" were bad fathers? Or if I made a study and determined that all "white people" are psychotic?

I'm gay. I'm monogamous. I want to get married. And, yet somehow, I'm always going to be stereotyped as diseased and fickle. I think I'm more dedicated to my relationship than all the fucking heteros who get divorced. What about your 50% divorce rate? And look at Maury Povich...that show is nothing but a parade of women getting DNA tests, because they can't keep their legs shut.

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For the record, I hate these studies a lot. They're offensive. Imagine if I created a study, and determined that all "heterosexual men" were bad fathers? Or if I made a study and determined that all "white people" are psychotic?

I'm gay. I'm monogamous. I want to get married. And, yet somehow, I'm always going to be stereotyped as diseased and fickle. I think I'm more dedicated to my relationship than all the fucking heteros who get divorced. What about your 50% divorce rate? And look at Maury Povich...that show is nothing but a parade of women getting DNA tests, because they can't keep their legs shut.

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Melon, I see your points. But I think that the point of the article is not to question the fact that gay or straight couples are better fathers, they are just 'counting' the number of sexual partners that gay men have. And I agree with the previous poster that a comparison with straight men would have made the study somehow more relevant.

But I wanted to hear further opinions to see if people agreed with the statement that gays tend to have more sexual partners.
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NEW New study: MEN prone to promiscuity
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all the more reason to legalize gay marriage.

it's no surprise to me that gay men can be prone to promiscuity:

1. they're men
2. they have no legal means to create legitimate relationships
3. they're ghettoized

would a similar study have made the news if we had replaced "gay" with "black" and "promiscuity" with "violence, shattered families, and drug abuse"?
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NEW New study: MEN prone to promiscuity
WHAT?? SHOCK NEWS!!!
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The tone of the article sounds pretty biased to me, as well. I'd like to see this "Marriage Digest."
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NEWER NEW New study: Humans prone to bone





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Deep, In the future, please don't refer to sex while showing Martha Stewart.
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I think I'm more dedicated to my relationship than all the fucking heteros who get divorced. What about your 50% divorce rate? And look at Maury Povich...that show is nothing but a parade of women getting DNA tests, because they can't keep their legs shut.

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Exactly

Studies like this serve NO purpose other than to piss people off and get on a high horse and say "we knew they were dirty little fags" I mean what's it accomplish?
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Ba-zing.

This report, though not this study itself, comes from the Southern Baptist news website:

http://www.bpnews.net/default.asp

'Cause they don't have an anti-gay agenda.

Or anything.

As we all know.
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It just sickens me that they're flat out adding more fuel to the fire that is sterotyping gay males.

Actually, I'm beginning to think that the human race as a whole isn't meant for monogamy, but that's another topic altogether, lol.
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