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Old 10-25-2006, 09:48 AM   #76
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My way of looking at it is-if those embryos are not going to be used to create a life, what better purpose could they have than to possibly save other lives and possibly cure disease?

I completely agree. I've been a Christian my entire life and I'm still not sure how that implies stem cell research is immoral...? I don't know the science behind it, but if my sister were dying and they told me they could save her with cells generated from my eggs, I'd donate them in a heartbeat, just like I'd give her a kidney if she had kidney failure.

Morals and religion aside, I'm not sure how I feel about government funding, since I'm not a science person and I don't know how that usually works. If the government has funded research for other diseases, then I don't see why they would step up to the plate here. I do have a problem with the government refusing to fund this because of some pseudo-theological hang-up.
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Here is a perfect example of how you are misinformed. Thank you for providing it.

Having worked in this area for years, I can tell you that it is very common for the private sector to dump money to public sector research institutes (independent and university affiliated) to do the initial research. I have worked on such projects on many occasions, and we would do the preliminary studies before the private entities took over but only AFTER we were able to show that there was some promise in some protocol we were doing. There are many reasons for this, some of it has to do with the fact that academic research is far better suited to the initial optimization of experiments, there is more collaboration in academia than in the private sector and more public labs have access to restricted substances and/or viruses (biohazard clearance is tightly regulated and not uncommon to have only a handful - or even just one or two - level IV clearance areas in a country and you can bet your ass they're not at a private corporation!).

I have no idea where your "estimation" comes from, but it's dead wrong.




bingo. i've been too tired to do much in this thread other than make passes at sexy diamond, so i'm so glad you made the very fundamental point that without public funding, there's not much science, whether in the US or Canada or the UK or wherever else.

as for Rush ... well, i suppose he's an expert on when one is or is not on the drugs, isn't he?

dispicable.
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Jeff Suppan is a pitcher for the St. Louis Cardinals (baseball)

Kurt Warner is a former quarterback for the St. Louis Rams (football)

and Mike Sweeney is a player for the Kansas City Royals (baseball (kind of))

they are all sports "celebrities" in Missouri, and are all quite religious, so I'm guessing that's why they decided to do the ad to counter the Fox one.

and it was bookended by Jesus! don't forget that.
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participants-

let it now be understood i'm swamped at work in the midst of writing 3 loans for clients, think not that i'm avoiding this topic nor your questions.

i will address your questions and queries as time permits.

thank you for kind words earlier mrs springsteen re my father.

little irvine one day we will have words, and i hope you can handle them.


and martina we're not finish i'm only busy.

late,

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little irvine one day we will have words, and i hope you can handle them.

what do you bench?
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cleanly w/o jerking or groaning.



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MJF is going to be rallying for Jim Webb in Arlington next Thurs...I am VERY tempted to go, and if I can find someone to go with me I definitely will go.


Irvine you should go too
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MJF is going to be rallying for Jim Webb in Arlington next Thurs...I am VERY tempted to go, and if I can find someone to go with me I definitely will go.


Irvine you should go too



i'm filming outside of Pittsburgh.

i would have totally been up for it.
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I reeeeeeeeeally want to go...and if I can find anyone around here willing to go with me I will...even if that means missing a class or two
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Sweet, several people want to go with me next Thursday...Michael J. Fox here we come!!!


We all said he'll probably have us in tears when he's done...it's so painful to watch him.
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i'm filming outside of Pittsburgh.

i would have totally been up for it.



I'm going, but we'll miss you! Give us a puppet to carry in your absence!!!
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Good for you Laura! Please report back. And take lots of tissues
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I'm going, but we'll miss you! Give us a puppet to carry in your absence!!!



perhaps we should get a DC/NoVA/MD area group together at some point ...
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perhaps we should get a DC/NoVA/MD area group together at some point ...




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