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Old 05-12-2005, 12:24 PM   #1
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New Michigan PSOR

So, apparently Michigan is now posting photos of sex offenders in our online PSOR. I had checked the registry a few months ago just out of curiosity and was disturbed to find one offender living along my route to school and another within houses of the 4 kids I used to nanny (albeit you can tell by their convictions that they're not sexual predators). It just feels weird to be able to look up their photos.

I dunno, I don't have a problem with our PSOR (we can search by zip code, don't have to know the person's name, and will get a list of their convictions, address, and aliases) or with Megan's Law, but I can see where some might find posting photos a bit too far. What do you guys think?
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I think it is a fair and reasonable consequence to a conviction for a sex crime.
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As do I Doug. But do you think it's fair that (in Michigan at least) a 21 year old who has consensual sex with say, his 15 year old girlfriend gets his crime, address, and picture online (and will get 5 years in the slammer if he forgets to update it) whereas someone who may have beaten his wife and child to death doesn't?

I'm not advocating for the rights of criminals here, it just does seem a bit inconsistent.
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Where is this site Lies?
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It creeps me out that so many of them smile for the pictures
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:15 PM   #7
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The only objection that I have is that Michigan, as far as I know, does not designate between serious and minor sex offenses. A minor sex offense, for instance, would be an instance of consentual statutory rape between an 18 year old and a 15 year old who go to high school together, just as an example. It's not a defense of statutory rape. I just don't think it is fair to smear someone as a pervert for an offense like that.

Now for rapists and child molestors? That's certainly what the list was designed for, and they could conceivably pose a future threat to society.

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I looked up my zip code and most were criminal sexual conduct to varying degrees - isn't first degree really bad and 4th not too bad?
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My question is, if it's someone like a rapist or a child molester, and the police put them on a list because they feel the person's at risk to do this again, why even let them out of jail in the first place? I have never understood that. Just leave them in jail where they belong, then we wouldn't have this problem.

That being said, I do agree with melon on this one.

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As do I Doug. But do you think it's fair that (in Michigan at least) a 21 year old who has consensual sex with say, his 15 year old girlfriend gets his crime, address, and picture online (and will get 5 years in the slammer if he forgets to update it) whereas someone who may have beaten his wife and child to death doesn't?

I'm not advocating for the rights of criminals here, it just does seem a bit inconsistent.
Perhaps the sentencing of violent criminals is harsher than for sex crimes.

Also, the recidivism rate for sex crimes may be higher prompting the greater need for warning.
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I know the one in my state has different levels of offense, I'm not even sure how they're defined. I can see a problem if it was consensual sex involving a minor, but how many cases out of all of them are really like that?

I for one am sick of the offenders' rights prevailing over the concern for the safety of children. That's certainly what it seems like to me.
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I know the one in my state has different levels of offense, I'm not even sure how they're defined. I can see a problem if it was consensual sex involving a minor, but how many cases out of all of them are really like that?

I for one am sick of the offenders' rights prevailing over the concern for the safety of children. That's certainly what it seems like to me.
I do think common sense should prevail, which seems to be very lacking in our rather hysterical society.

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But I don't think common sense can always save childrens' lives. If we know about these people living among us, maybe that knowledge can actually create some power.

Of course parents have to have common sense and teach their kids common sense-but that's not always enough.
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But I don't think common sense can always save childrens' lives. If we know about these people living among us, maybe that knowledge can actually create some power.

Of course parents have to have common sense and teach their kids common sense-but that's not always enough.
Smearing someone who committed consentual statutory rape within a close age range (18 versus 15, for instance) does nothing but ruin someone's life. And that's what a lot of these lists do. Sure, it may be the smallest of minorities on that list, and I'm not advocating throwing the list out altogether, but that's where Congress should exercise common sense and change the law, even if just to tweak it.

A local judge around here in Michigan has echoed this sentiment, so I'm not alone in this. This list should only reflect people who do pose a potential danger to society, rather than every and all sex crime, some of which are very minor.

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I agree w/ that melon
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