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Old 10-26-2006, 08:12 PM   #91
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Agreed - the family is being attacked on many fronts. The redefinition of the family is one such attack. But it is only one. I agree that financial stress, infidelity, pornography, addictions...etc all play a part in destroying families. the Enemy has many weapons.
And none of those have anything to do with homosexuals. Period. It's not our responsibility to live in misery, because heterosexuals don't know how to keep their legs crossed when it comes to infidelity and can't keep them open when it comes to having children.

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I am at work until 10pm and I started at 8 Irvine so were both shit out of luck.

fine "Gay Marriage"

People have a right to be against it does that make them biggots?
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People have a right to be against it does that make them bigots?
Yes. Most definitely. People have a right to think that blacks and whites should live in a segregated society, but that still makes them bigots.

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What I meant is they dont have to agree in Gay Marriage but they can still be very good friends or show compassion toward one another with out hate, so how are they biggoted.

Thats like saying who ever doesn't like christian is a christian hater or would they be biggots. Where are someone who does not like Islam would most likely be considered biggots right? Whats the difference if both believe in the same god. Is it because most of the muslim religion is of Arab or asian desent. Because we could argue that most Christians are Latin American Decent.
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I rather dislike abortion, but I don't demand that the government ban it. I would rather expend my effort telling people why I personally dislike it and let people make their own decisions from there. In the end, all decisions are between "us and our God." I do not
Melon, you have got to start a thread on this. I would be very interested to know why you dislike it.
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i'm still waiting for someone to address my earlier posts.

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What I meant is they dont have to agree in Gay Marriage but they can still be very good friends or show compassion toward one another with out hate, so how are they biggoted.

Thats like saying who ever doesn't like christian is a christian hater or would they be biggots. Where are someone who does not like Islam would most likely be considered biggots right? Whats the difference if both believe in the same god. Is it because most of the muslim religion is of Arab or asian desent. Because we could argue that most Christians are Latin American Decent.
If you hate Islam to the point of demanding that your government ban the practice of it and pass laws that discriminate against Muslims, then, yes, that makes you a bigot.

If you're willing to accept that Islam isn't your cup of tea, but don't care if it is practiced freely in America anyway, then, no, that doesn't make you a bigot.

If a "friend of mine" was adamantly against gay marriage and demanded that government step in to ban it, no matter how much it would make me unhappy, I'd still consider him a bigot, no matter how nice he is to my face.

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Melon, you have got to start a thread on this. I would be very interested to know why you dislike it.
Someday, I might. Just not tonight. It's just so dreary out and uninspiring for me to write.

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Ok thanks for Clarifing that. Gotta go have a good night.
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You weren't addressing me, I might indeed be on your ignore list, but please explain to me how denying to others what you demand for yourself isn't bigoted?
To be honest, I don't even know how the ignore list thingy works.
However, as I said, I'm sitting this one out except to defend the right of conservatives to say, you know, conservative things.
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However, as I said, I'm sitting this one out except to defend the right of conservatives to say, you know, conservative things.


what could be more conservative than seeking to place adults into stable relationships and giving structure, meaning, and purpose to sexual intercourse?

and please feel free to answer my questions: why would you bar me access to the institution of marriage on the basis of an immutable orientation that poses no harm to society, is shared by a sizeable population, and would greatly benefit that population?
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I don't even bother with these arguments anymore.

You know why?

Because time is on the side of those who support gay marriage. We can wait you folks out. Time is running against you and you are siding with a wrong, and losing issue. Give it 50 years and kids will be looking at today and wondering who these bigots were, sort of like we wonder who those racist hicks were that forbid blacks from sitting at the front of the bus. It's coming, it's a sure as the fact the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

Time waits for no man.
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I don't even bother with these arguments anymore.

You know why?

Because time is on the side of those who support gay marriage. We can wait you folks out. Time is running against you and you are siding with a wrong, and losing issue. Give it 50 years and kids will be looking at today and wondering who these bigots were, sort of like we wonder who those racist hicks were that forbid blacks from sitting at the front of the bus. It's coming, it's a sure as the fact the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

Time waits for no man.
Some one does not agree there Biggots.

Let's all become the sheeple because being different is wrong.

It will come someday like you said but nice to see the pointing of Fingers going around. And when we die how will you answer to the being if you believe in him/her/it?
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However, as I said, I'm sitting this one out except to defend the right of conservatives to say, you know, conservative things.
Oh. Now that I've asked you a direct question, you're sitting this one out.
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However, to me it is yet another overall symptom of a nation slipping into moral chaos.
I find your "morals" to be extremely immoral, and social conservatives have always been on the side of moral chaos. History is on my side with that one.

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I personally believe that the Enemy is attacking the foundations of our society. That's the best place to attack if you want to destroy something. If we agree that one of the foundations of a society is the family, then it only makes sense the Enemy would seek to destroy it.
I find social conservatives to be the one that are attacking love therefore destroying families.

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And the Enemy appears to be winning the battle for this society. B]
Yes you are winning.

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This is simply another "sign" of the Enemy winning - so that's why I post. To hopefully warn and educate. To try and demonstrate that not everyone thinks this "progress."
Haven't heard this much bullshit since I watched video of Klan rally.
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You are obviously welcome to disagree with me. And I think the discussion is important. I don't want to see anyone denied something they really want, as long as what they "want" is in tune with what God wants for them. God's character has been proven through His Son, Jesus Christ - and even He surrendered to His father's will.
Even if this was true, we don't live in a theocracy, so why are you trying to create one?

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- and I've never had such "peace, love, and understanding."
That's too bad, Christ sure did.
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