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Old 10-31-2006, 07:39 PM   #496
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i do think that there are many people in here who would benefit greatly from knowing gay people, and seeing their relationships and understanding that they are every bit as magical, maddening, euphoric, depressing, messy, and human as any heterosexual relationships. homosexuality is EXACTLY the same as heterosexuality.

i find it odd that people who will wax about man's essential spiritual nature and metaphysical relationship to the incarnation of a diety, and then turn around and reduce marriage to penises and vaginas.

so, yes, i do think it comes down to simple prejudice. not hateful prejudice, not spiteful prejudice, but ignorant prejudice.

go meet some gay people.





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i also want to toss out the slippery slope argument in the other direction -- when we say that the races can marry, what's next? if they say that race doesn't matter, are they going to say that gender doesn't matter either?

keep marriage traditional!
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If "heteros" (since they seem to take offense to being called "breeders." But hey...it wasn't me who said that marriage was all about making babies...) are willing to call their conjugal partner a "civil union," legally, I'm more than willing to accept a wide-scale version of domestic partnership.

However, just to clue you in on it, the gay community isn't like an extra special episode of "The Golden Girls." We're as much capable of love as the penis/vagina equivalent. I'm not about to accept "separate but equal" treatment, merely because you want to feel superior.

Unless everyone is ready for the title, "civil union," I'm not about to accept such a demeaning title. My future same-sex marriage will be as blessed by God as everyone else's union.

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I imagine many people who oppose gay marriage and/or civial unions would say "some of my best friends are gay."


They just don't finish the sentence: "but I don't like them enough to want to allow them the basic rights I take for granted."


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The graph is fairly straight forward, it just doesn't show causation.
Ah yes. Isn't that the flaw of every right-wing argument against same-sex marriage?

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Unless everyone is ready for the title, "civil union," I'm not about to accept such a demeaning title. My future same-sex marriage will be as blessed by God as everyone else's union.
I can't stand the term "civil union." It implies second class status. I take such joy, comfort, and solace from my marriage that I want everyone to be able to experience what I've got.


(Now watch someone jump all over my use of the term "everyone" while completely ignoring the context.)
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I can't stand the term "civil union." It implies second class status. I take such joy, comfort, and solace from my marriage that I want everyone to be able to experience what I've got.


(Now watch someone jump all over my use of the term "everyone" while completely ignoring the context.)
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jk. I agree wholeheartedly. I don't understand the justification behind denying people in love the peace, stability, and comfort that a marrige can bring to the relationship.
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Goodbye thread.

I can't say I'll exactly miss you.
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you know we're TOTALLY cuter.

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What puzzles me most is that we now do have jurisdictions around the world where gay marriage is legally acceptable. So you can use those places as pretty good models of what has happened post-introduction of gay marriage rights.

And seriously, nothing has changed for 90% of society (or whatever the number is) who aren't personally going to marry someone of their own gender. Nothing has changed socially for us, nothing has torn apart our moral fabric, and frankly, nobody even thinks about it that much anymore.

So these speculations of how terrible this would be for the society at large are rather easily debunked.
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If "heteros" (since they seem to take offense to being called "breeders." But hey...it wasn't me who said that marriage was all about making babies...)
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Melon, I've never called you or ANY other homosexual person any intentionally derogatory name. NEVER. I can sympathise with your anger, but never truly understand it as I'm not homosexual. you, however, are also not heterosexual nor are you female, so you cannot fully understand why the term "breeder" pisses me off. Can't you at least realise that? If not you are every bit as bad as the people you despise.
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Goodbye thread.

I can't say I'll exactly miss you.
Ah just think? This thread was about New Jersey embracing civil rights. And it turned into a free-for-all gay bashing thread.

I know what I'm going to do the next time there's a thread on Christianity. There's enough skeletons in its historical closet to make for a nice Christian-bashing thread. After all, it's only fair that I return the favor in kind.

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I can sympathise with your anger, but never truly understand it as I'm not homosexual.
You're right. You know, same-sex marriage is one issue, but just getting people to recognize that gay people exist is an insurmountable task in itself. That's what makes these threads piss me off to no end.

I am not perfect, and anyone who claims to be is lying. So you have my apologies for offending you.

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